hedge wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:41 pmYou're seriously saying that stopping someone from committing suicide isn't a good enough reason to grant a fucking divorce?
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sigh) No. No its not. I will explain.
hedge wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:41 pmI reiterate: You are a goddamn piece of shit, you don't deserve to live. I'd gladly beat your sorry ass to death with my bare hands if I ever encounter you. And we both know I can do it, you fucking little worthless incel faggot...
And I'm sure you are a really nice guy who means well and thinks he is doing right. You just do not understand the history of no-fault-divorce. It appears I must educate you. So here goes.
In the late 1950s and the early 1960s, the country noticed a not so insignificant spike in suicides for married women. Now, men have been committing suicide at ridiculous rates for centuries. No one blinks an eye because we live in a world where men are regarded as "expendable." So as Freddie Mercury said of suicide "Don't try suicide, nobody gives a damn." He was referring to men, not women.
Well at the beginning of the 1960s we were entering the second wave of feminism. And the root principle of feminism is that women have value and men have NO value. So (of course) a slight spike in suicide among married women (of all people) raised all sorts of alarm bells for feminists and they DEMANDED that SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!!!!!! So they did a little investigative work.
What they found was that married women who were unhappily married to good men (and when I say "good men", I mean men who work hard and treat their wives with deceny and love, men who cherish their wives) well, many of these women had no skills and no earning power. They had been married for all their adult lives and they just didn't want to be married anymore to the man who took such good care of them because their vaginas no longer moistened or tingled for their husbands. They wanted out. The problem is they had NO GROUNDS for divorce. None. So all they could do is leave their husbands with the shirt on their back and abandon their children and get no alimony. That reality was just too much for some married women who were no longer in love, so they killed themselves.
To fix this, feminists insisted that the state laws of California change in 1969. So the very first "no-fault-divorce" bill was created. NO GROUNDS were necessary to grant a divorce. You didn't have to provide a reason (because my vagina isn't moist for his cock anymore isn't a reason.) And that the divorce may be granted unilaterally (that is, he doesn't want to get divorced but it doesn't matter, the judge will grant it just for her.) AND she gets to collect cash and prizes (gets the house, the alimony, the child support.) And now the unhappily married woman can leave her husband and keep all the money the minute she no longer has any use for him. That law into effect in California on January 1st, 1970.
That fixed the suicide rate. But it ruined marriage forever. From that moment on, marriage in the United States now had a NEW trait that men had to deal with. That trait was called THREATPOINT.
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/04/14/threatpoint/
What IS the threatpoint? Well....
In the literature on the economics of the family there has been growing consensus on the need to take bargaining and distribution within marriage seriously. Such models of the family rely on a threat point to determine distribution within the household. The switch to a unilateral divorce regime redistributes power in a marriage, giving power to the person who wants out, and reducing the power previously held by the partner interested in preserving the marriage.
This was an ancillary benefit to no-fault-divorce is that women now held a Sword of Damocles over the heads of any man who said "I do." You need to keep me happy at all times or I get half.
Hedge, how can a man promise to keep his wife happy? She has to keep herself happy. As I said above, the only reason why we had 'no-fault-divorce' was because the women had no grounds to divorce their husbands. They just didn't want to fuck them anymore BUT they didn't want to give up the lifestyle their husbands provided.
So the end result (51 years later) is an obliterated marriage rate in the United States. You will find whole regions of the country and whole demographics of people where marriage has simply ceased being any kind of cultural institution. And where there was marriage (and now divorce, for no reason) you will see two generations of sons who simply have NO REASON to better themselves and to get married. As I said before, what is in it for them? Nothing hedge. Nothing. They saw their dads get ruined by their moms and they want no part of marriage. I can't say I blame them. So they stay at home (all their life perhaps), smoke pot, surf porn, and masturbate instead. And now, they are not even working. This is ALL a result of giving a few unhappily married women the right to nuke their marriage to keep them from committing suicide.
Not a good trade off sir. No, it was not worth it. To keep a few women from committing suicide we ended marriage for everyone. We blew it. But at least the change in divorce law, DookSucks could turn that into a cottage industry.
Oh, and I corrected your spelling of "incel" for you. You are welcome. Merry Christmas.