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bluetick wrote:problem solved

And go back to the pre-W tax rates. And go back to the pre-9/11 defense budget. We could have a balanced budget by 2015..

and gules kids would be free...FREE! (and free to marry somebody of their own sex!)

Owlman wrote:

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TheBigMook wrote:Sounds like you want death panels. Sean Hannity just shed a tear.

call it what you want fact is medicine is big business. hospitals buy all thos fancy machines, specialists order all kinds of tests, and providers do all kinds of procedures to make money. the more tests procedures etc they can do the more they generate income for their institution and for themselves. thats why when grandma checks into the hospital for her bout with infection wherever it might be you just bought specialty consults from not only the ER doctor and the hospitalists but from infectious disease, the cardiologist, the nephrologist, the dermatologist, and the gamut of tests and images they order to bring in more providers incluuding a general surgeon to biopsy, a pathologist to read it and a radiolgist to interpret ct scan the general surgeon ordered. and lord help you if any tests come back abnormal you just bought yourself another diagnosuis and completer workup. never mind that grandma is 98 years old

Most of the tests I ordered, the radiologist or another physician was paid for that. Physicians generally don't order tests for more money (there are exceptions of course), they order tests because patients have a belief that the more the doctor does for them, the better the doctor. At the same time, the more tests they order, the less risk of a lawsuit occurring (not just as a defense, but because the more the patient likes you, the lesser the likelihood of a lawsuit). Therefore, competition in medicine actually increases the amount of tests done.

Example: Bad cold for 1 1/2 weeks, patient coughing up green phlegm, takes off, comes see the physician. Physicians does an examination, lungs are clear. Patient should be told home and rest, take over-the-counter medication. But many physicians now will order a chest X-ray and send the patient home with antibiotics; just in case. It's more likely a viral infection.

Toemeesleather wrote:
Taxed-out New Yorkers are voting with their feet, with a staggering 1.6 million residents fleeing the state over the last decade, a new report found.

That's as if the entire populations of Buffalo, Rochester, Yonkers, White Plains and West Babylon combined had packed up and left.

For the second consecutive decade, New York led the nation in the percentage of residents leaving for other states, according to the report by the Empire Center for State Policy.

The population loss is "the ultimate barometer of New York's attractiveness as a place to work, live and do business," said the report's co-author, E.J. McMahon. "It's the ultimate indication that we've been doing things wrong."

bluetick wrote:problem solved

And go back to the pre-W tax rates. And go back to the pre-9/11 defense budget. We could have a balanced budget by 2015..

and gules kids would be free...FREE! (and free to marry somebody of their own sex!)

DooKSucks wrote:LMAO at Hack calling the most educated and accomplished member of this board "retarded."