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bluetick wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/white-n ... 018-2018-5 A record number of white nationalists are running for national office in 2018, including people who deny the Holocaust occurred and advocate for segregation.

Self-described Nazis and white supremacists are running as Republicans across the country. The GOP is terrified.

Professor Tiger wrote:

bluetick wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/white-n ... 018-2018-5 A record number of white nationalists are running for national office in 2018, including people who deny the Holocaust occurred and advocate for segregation.

Self-described Nazis and white supremacists are running as Republicans across the country. The GOP is terrified.

1. Liberals call EVERYBODY who disagrees with them “nazis” and “white nationalists.” Those terms don’t even mean anything anymore. Any list of people that Democrats call “nazis” and “white nationalists” probably includes Mitt Romney, The Audubon Society and Santa Claus. Besides, nobody has ever heard of these alleged nazis and white nationalist loonies, and never will since they live in their parents’ basements.

2. Who are the loonies saying crazy things on the left? “Socialism is “the future of the Democrat party” (DNC Chair Perez), “Abolish ICE” (Pocahontas et al), “Revoke the Trump tax cuts” (Leader Pelosi), “God sent me to impeach Trump” (Low IQ Maxine), “Medicare for all” (Bernie and the 20 something)... The Democrats’ loonies are the Democrat leaders.

Trump is extremely fortunate to have this^ as his opposition.

Professor Tiger wrote:After over a year and tens of millions of dollars, your stand up Marine war hero imbecile STILL hasn’t got diddly squat. His investigation was supposed to be about Trump colluding with the Russians.

But after all this time and frenzy, the “stuff I KNOW” is Trump is kicking his opponents asses up and down the Potomac. The Lurch “investigation,” despite being staffed by partisan hit men like Strozk and Ohr, has been embarrassingly reduced to prosecuting Manafort for supposed monkey business with the Ukrainians ten years ago. That’s somewhere between silly and pathetic.

DooKSucks wrote:

Professor Tiger wrote:

bluetick wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/white-n ... 018-2018-5 A record number of white nationalists are running for national office in 2018, including people who deny the Holocaust occurred and advocate for segregation.

Self-described Nazis and white supremacists are running as Republicans across the country. The GOP is terrified.

1. Liberals call EVERYBODY who disagrees with them “nazis” and “white nationalists.” Those terms don’t even mean anything anymore. Any list of people that Democrats call “nazis” and “white nationalists” probably includes Mitt Romney, The Audubon Society and Santa Claus. Besides, nobody has ever heard of these alleged nazis and white nationalist loonies, and never will since they live in their parents’ basements.

2. Who are the loonies saying crazy things on the left? “Socialism is “the future of the Democrat party” (DNC Chair Perez), “Abolish ICE” (Pocahontas et al), “Revoke the Trump tax cuts” (Leader Pelosi), “God sent me to impeach Trump” (Low IQ Maxine), “Medicare for all” (Bernie and the 20 something)... The Democrats’ loonies are the Democrat leaders.

Trump is extremely fortunate to have this^ as his opposition.

The GOP is led by its extremist wing, but you sheep are unable to see that...

crashcourse wrote:
the beginning of this stems from carter page's alleged ties initiating a fisa warrant which was extended 4 times to include anyone page talked to whomever those people talked to--basically your entire trump election effort.

can Mueller issue findings without addressing why someone thought the trump campaign was colluding in the first place.

"I don't see what relation this indictment has with what the special counsel is authorized to investigate," Ellis told prosecutors . "You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud ... What you really care about is what information Mr. Manafort could give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump or lead to his prosecution or impeachment." Ellis later quipped: "The vernacular is 'to sing.'"

https://www.businessinsider.com/judge-t ... sia-2018-5

"It isn't a crime to have a lot of money and be profligate in your spending," Ellis said.

"That's enough," Ellis said when a prosecutor asked Katzman to total the annual invoices for those five years for the jurors' benefit. "They can add."

Manafort is "not on trial for having a lavish lifestyle," Ellis said at one point.

"To parade all of this," he said later, "seems to me unnecessary, irrelevant and maybe unfairly prejudicial."

But Ellis apparently wasn't buying it, reportedly characterizing the special counsel's office's argument as: "We said this was what the investigation was about, but we are not bound by it, and we were lying."

"Come on, man!" Ellis said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/02/paul-ma ... warns.html

Before the jury was even called into the courtroom this morning, Judge T.S. Ellis had some opinions to tell the court.

First, he expressed some impatience with the prosecution spending considerable time establishing the fact that Paul Manafort did extensive work in Ukraine. Tad Devine, the government’s first witness yesterday, filled that purpose, as Daniel Rabin, the government’s second witness who is next to take the stand, is intended to do today.

But the judge took particular offense to the term “oligarch,” which prosecutor Greg Andres used yesterday in reference to those financing Viktor Yanukovych’s campaign. Ever the traditionalist, Ellis referred to the definition of “oligarchy,” where power resides in a select few.

“I suppose high schools are oligarchies in that sense,” Ellis said.

He said that use of the term “oligarch” implies Manafort is consorting with criminals, and there will be no evidence presented to the court about them. “The only thing we know is that they have a lot of money.”

So do George Soros and the Koch brothers, he added, but they wouldn’t be referred to as “oligarchs.”

He added that the term has taken on a “pejorative” connotation.

Andres tried to counter, but Ellis told him to “find another term to use” and suggested “he financed it.” He told Andres he could submit a brief explaining why he needs to use the word, which Andres indicated he would do.

“Nobody would refer to the principal of a high school as an oligarch,” but it could fit the definition, Ellis said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/card/judge-elli ... ch-n896571