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Re: Baseball

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:58 pm
by Saint
Jeter made a career of doing what he was supposed to do and that, in itself, is greatness.

Re: Baseball

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:59 pm
by Jungle Rat
Not really.

Re: Baseball

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:52 pm
by eCat
well he's fucked alot of hot women

tell me that ain't Mickey Mantleish

Re: Baseball

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:01 pm
by Jungle Rat
Comparing Mickey to Jeter is comical.

Re: Baseball

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:26 am
by hedge
"Jeter made a career of doing what he was supposed to do and that, in itself, is greatness."

Rat has done that as well, but I don't think anyone would call that greatness...

Re: Baseball

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:37 am
by eCat
probably Jeter's greatest accomplishment is he doesn't have a rap sheet a mile long - parents are ok with their kid having a Jeter fathead on their wall

Clearly I don't watch Yankee games so I didn't know the significance of why Kornheiser was always imitating the announcer who introduced Jeter coming up to bat. I think that's pretty cool

Re: Baseball

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:38 am
by Jungle Rat
No, you would call that excellence

Re: Baseball

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:34 am
by crashcourse
5 world championships

starting shortstop 20 years for the team getting the 5 world championships

3400 hits 5th all time most since pete

no big deal

fucking royal tics are 125 bucks for standing room only

Re: Baseball

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:45 am
by Jungle Rat
Again, had he been a Rockie ESPN would be all over Paul Konerko calling it quits. 5 championships is not an individual award. Right place right time with a loaded lineup. 3000 hits I'll give you however. That's an accomplishment. Then again, he played for 20 years.

Re: Baseball

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:20 am
by aTm
The most comparable player who didn't play for a name team and didn't win the championships in this era is Craig Biggio and while Jeter was probably a bit better overall, it shows what the spotlight and the championships will do for you. Jeter is apparently one of the greatest ever while Biggio cannot even get into the Hall on the first or second ballot despite the 3000 hits, etc.

Re: Baseball

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:26 am
by hedge
I don't know about the spotlight, but the championships sure make a difference, even if that's shouldn't be counted as an individual achievement. What if Biggio's teams had won 5 WS's and Jeter's teams hadn't? I bet people would be making a bigger deal over Biggio if they had...

Re: Baseball

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:30 am
by Bklyn
EFZ. Championships definitely impact the story...and whether you get commercials telling you goodbye.

I am no Jeter apologist, but I think it was calculated that over 20 years, Jeter had played in 4 or 5 games in which his team was mathematically eliminated. You need a team to win a championship, but he was a big part of all those teams.

The announcer thing is pretty cool because the guy died about 5 years ago. They still use his voice to call Jeter up, the same way he did for Jeters first 15 seasons. The regular announcer covers everyone else. I always got a kick out of that.

Re: Baseball

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:04 pm
by Jungle Rat
Biggio. Heh. He'll never get into the HOF nor should he. 5 foot 5 guys doing steroids don't have a chance. Fucking cheater.

Re: Baseball

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:07 pm
by Jungle Rat
He wasn't Hall Of Fame worthy even before he juiced up.

Re: Baseball

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:36 pm
by aTm
Try harder next time

Re: Baseball

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:10 am
by sardis
ATM in denial about the Biggio juicing reminds me of the Rat denial of Griffey Jr. juicing.

Re: Baseball

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:41 am
by eCat
LOL

Re: Baseball

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:30 am
by Bklyn
I won't believe Griffey juiced. Won't do it.

Re: Baseball

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:55 am
by eCat
Griffey = last pure hitter in baseball

Re: Baseball

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:19 am
by Cletus
What is a pure hitter?