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Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:40 am
by sardis
I will say that if the media keeps making Michael Brown comparisons they are doing a disservice and risk pissing off a large part of the public that have empathy on this last incident.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:58 am
by eCat
did you see they have surveillance video released of the Arbery going inside a house under construction, then leaving when he sees someone calling 911 on him?

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 3:24 pm
by hedge
I go into houses under construction all the time...

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 3:30 pm
by hedge
Who knows what's the truth anymore, but I've seen articles saying there had been no reports of any burglaries in that neighborhood anytime recently. Irregardless, if some lawyer can convince a jury that these two neighborhood civilian policemen didn't have reasonable probable cause to approach this guy with shotguns and attempt a citizen's arrest, there will be no "self-defense" defense. They're going to say this was tantamount to kidnapping, which is a felony, and you kill somebody while in the process of committing a felony against that person, you can't claim self-defense. On another note, have you seen the mugshots of these two clowns who killed the guy? They should be executed just for looking like that...

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 4:05 pm
by eCat
I see a hung jury that is racially diverse

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 7:54 pm
by hedge
So you're saying whitey gon look after whitey?

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 8:15 pm
by eCat
no more than a black person will want to convict

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 8:16 am
by hedge
Ah, liberty and justice for all...

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 8:51 am
by Jungle Rat
hedge wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 3:24 pm I go into houses under construction all the time...
Same. And the owners said they didn't care.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 9:47 am
by sardis
I do too. It's what people in the neighborhood do when a house is being built. They're curious. All the prosecution has to do is show that other neighbors walk through the house and the father/son did nothing to stop them. Now, if they show him walking out with a bunch of copper wire then they have cause.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 9:50 am
by sardis
Someone needs to be told the parable of the Good Samaritan and what the story means.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/04/corey-joh ... elped-nyc/

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 10:00 am
by eCat
what world do you guys live in where you just go on property without asking permission and wander around?

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 10:02 am
by DooKSucks
I see people do it all of the time.

If someone does a tear down and new build in our neighborhood, folks will walk through that house to look around during daytime walks.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 10:42 am
by eCat
in the age of stealing copper and scrap metal?

Apparently none of you live in a town like Brunswick Georgia


With a crime rate of 65 per one thousand residents, Brunswick has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 15.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 10:58 am
by sardis
eCat wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 10:00 am what world do you guys live in where you just go on property without asking permission and wander around?
It’s not like people are living there. If there’s copper wire and such, why doesn’t the builder lock the door?

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:19 am
by eCat
strange justifications here

its the builders responsibility to make sure people don't trespass.........?

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 12:00 pm
by crotch
#obamagate


Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 12:25 pm
by bluetick
New dwelling constructions are literally an open house - I go in them all the time. Builders know people are curious about their workmanship - they put out their own business signs, not "no trespassing" signs. Plus they have builder's risk insurance for all their materials.

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 12:43 pm
by Jungle Rat
eCat wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 10:00 am what world do you guys live in where you just go on property without asking permission and wander around?
America

Re: Florida State Seminoles

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 1:59 pm
by hedge
Admittedly, back in the day, we used to steal all sorts of stuff (mostly lumber) to build camps in the woods, and that was wrong. But me and the MIF walk into houses being built all the time to check them out. Ditto houses old houses being renovated. Just this weekend, we walked up to one house that we've been monitoring for a couple of months (it's a slow renovation) and I checked the window and it was open (low window on the front porch, just had to step thru it) and the MIF kinda demurred on that (plus we had the dogs with us). She said something like "that's trespassing," and I was like "we've been trespassing on this property for months and you're trespassing now just standing on the porch." But in eCat's defense, the MIF did seem to draw the line at actually opening a window and going inside. But if it's just the frame of a new house or even with the walls up but no doors or windows, she'll go in...