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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:15 pm
by Professor Tiger
I pay no attention to either Hannity or Jones.

For the first few months of the investigation, I figured they might really have something on Trump. I could easily imagine the “Art of the Deal” guy cutting some deal with Putin to get elected. In fact, that’s exactly the kind of thing a NY real estate tycoon would be inclined to do to win.

But the minute Mueller indicted the Coffee Boy for talking with the former Maltese Ag Minister, I realized what a ridiculous sham this whole thing is. If this “stand up guy” has a case that is so weak that he has to resort to THAT kind of nonsense, then he’s got less than nothing on Trump. He is beyond grasping for straws.

I hope Mueller proves me right and keeps stringing this thing out forever. He’s probably in Thailand right now, interviewing that 21 year old Russian sex coach. He’ll want to see all her billing statements to all her clients. Then he’ll want to interview all her Russian customers about their relationship with Trump. Then he’ll subpoena their phone records. Then he’ll interview everybody they talked to in the past five years. Etc etc etc. This will go on for years.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:23 pm
by hedge
I hope you don't go on for years...

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:30 pm
by Professor Tiger
BTW, if Mueller’s signature is on that FISA request to spy on the Trump campaign based on the Pee Pee dossier that he knew was pure crap, (and that scenario is extremely likely), then he is no “American hero” or “stand up guy.” He is an American criminal who needs to go to jail.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:41 pm
by hedge
You need to go to hell...

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:16 am
by Professor Tiger
But you don't believe in hell.

That means you don't want me to go anywhere.

That means you want me to stay right here.

That means I intend to. You're welcome.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:53 pm
by bluetick
Professor Tiger wrote:I pay no attention to either Hannity or Jones.

For the first few months of the investigation, I figured they might really have something on Trump. I could easily imagine the “Art of the Deal” guy cutting some deal with Putin to get elected. In fact, that’s exactly the kind of thing a NY real estate tycoon would be inclined to do to win.

But the minute Mueller indicted the Coffee Boy for talking with the former Maltese Ag Minister, I realized what a ridiculous sham this whole thing is. If this “stand up guy” has a case that is so weak that he has to resort to THAT kind of nonsense, then he’s got less than nothing on Trump. He is beyond grasping for straws.

I hope Mueller proves me right and keeps stringing this thing out forever. He’s probably in Thailand right now, interviewing that 21 year old Russian sex coach. He’ll want to see all her billing statements to all her clients. Then he’ll want to interview all her Russian customers about their relationship with Trump. Then he’ll subpoena their phone records. Then he’ll interview everybody they talked to in the past five years. Etc etc etc. This will go on for years.
Pappadopolous was not the first to be indicted - Flynn was. Flynn was not a coffee boy, he was Trump's National Security Advisor. Manafort was Trump's campaign chairman and he is looking at life in prison. That is not nonsense - it is cold reality.

There are 19 indictments overall at this point. Mueller is 11 months into his investigation, whereas Ken Starr's turn as Special Counsel went 30 months. Your apparent frustration likely centers on the fact that Mueller operates in silence and is not the least bit public..nada, nyet, zip. Wheras Trump tweets something incredibly stupid 6 times a day. But then, there really is no comparison between the two, is there? Mueller is beyond reproach whereas Donnie is the poster child for reproach.

Stick with your original instincts. They WILL have something on Trump; it's gonna happen. Just like that republican pol's comment about rape...maybe you oughta relax and enjoy it.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:49 pm
by Professor Tiger
“They will have something on Trump.”

I’ve been hearing that for 11 months. It’s always in the future tense.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:55 pm
by hedge
I wish we were hearing about you in the past tense...

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:01 pm
by Professor Tiger
Your wish, like Tick’s fantasies about Mueller getting “something on Trump,” will ALWAYS be in the future tense.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:31 pm
by Professor Tiger
“They will have something on Trump. It’s going to happen.”

1. “Saddam has weapons of mass destruction. It’s a slam dunk.”
2. “I did not... have... sexual... relations... with that woman... Ms. Lewinski.”
3. “I am not a crook.”
4. “Mission Accomplished.”
5. “We are seeing light at the end of the tunnel in Vietnam.”
6. “Benghazi was caused by a YouTube video.”
7. “All those emails that I deleted were about yoga and wedding plans”
8. “When I met with Attorney General Lynch on that tarmac, all we talked about was yoga and wedding plans.”
9. “I neither sent nor received classified information on my private email system.”
10. “The IRS emails regarding conservative groups being denied tax exemptions were deleted by accident.”

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:12 pm
by hedge
Professor Tiger wrote:Your wish, like Tick’s fantasies about Mueller getting “something on Trump,” will ALWAYS be in the future tense.
Because of your guarantee of eternal life in Jesus?

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:08 pm
by bluetick
Karen MacDonald is suing to tell her story (she was paid 150k btw).

Stormy passed a polygraph exam in 2011 about her Trump affair, according to the WSJ.

And this Cambridge Analytica stuff is about to blow sky high. Things were never this fun under no-drama opram, that's for sure.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:23 pm
by Toemeesleather
Barack Obama's re-election team are building a vast digital data operation that for the first time combines a unified database on millions of Americans with the power of Facebook to target individual voters to a degree never achieved before.

Digital analysts predict this will be the first election cycle in which Facebook could become a dominant political force. The social media giant has grown exponentially since the last presidential election, rendering it for the first time a major campaigning tool that has the potential to transform friendship into a political weapon.

Facebook is also being seen as a source of invaluable data on voters. The re-election team, Obama for America, will be inviting its supporters to log on to the campaign website via Facebook, thus allowing the campaign to access their personal data and add it to the central data store – the largest, most detailed and potentially most powerful in the history of political campaigns. If 2008 was all about social media, 2012 is destined to become the "data election".

"Facebook is now ubiquitous," says Dan Siroker, a former Google digital analyst who joined Obama's campaign in 2008 and now runs his own San Francisco-based analytics consultancy, Optimizely. "Whichever candidate uses Facebook the most effectively could win the war."


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/ ... k-election

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:31 pm
by Toemeesleather
The NYT thought it was brilliant back in 2013....


The system gave Obama a significant advantage over Mitt Romney, according to Democrats ...

How times change...


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/23/magaz ... sh-in.html


To understand how it works, you must first understand the vast technological engine that powered the campaign but remained largely out of view of the public and the press. Messina, the campaign manager, often boasted about how the Obama 2012 effort would be “the most data-driven campaign ever.” But what that truly meant — the extent to which the campaign used the newest tech tools to look into people’s lives and the sheer amount of personal data its vast servers were crunching — remained largely shrouded. The secrecy around the operation was partly because the president’s strategists wanted to maintain their competitive edge. But it was also no doubt because they worried that practices like “data mining” and “analytics” could make voters uncomfortable.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:59 pm
by bluetick
Ted Cruz also used Facebook. What Ted didn't do was use Russians. Or use their money.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:08 pm
by Professor Tiger
hedge wrote:
Professor Tiger wrote:Your wish, like Tick’s fantasies about Mueller getting “something on Trump,” will ALWAYS be in the future tense.
Because of your guarantee of eternal life in Jesus?
FTR, I don’t believe such a “guarantee.”

But you make an excellent correlation between Religion and Trump Derangement Syndrome. The eschatology of both are 100% faith based. But the difference is, a Christian will happily admit their belief in the Second Coming is not based on any empirical whatsoever.

In contrast, a TDS cultist longs for the ultimate Eternal Damnation of Donald J. Trump, his immortal soul cast into the Lake of Fire, his body consigned to flames of perdition, and his soul marooned in the Outer Darkness, where there is weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth. Amen. But they’ll never admit that they have no more empirical evidence to support their dogma of the future.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:37 pm
by hedge
So you're admitting you're full of shit. Glad we got that straight...

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:09 pm
by Professor Tiger
So they identified the Austin bomber. Good job, cops.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:49 pm
by Cletus
Another white male terrorist. I wonder if we'll ever focus on the real terror problem in the US?

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:56 pm
by Professor Tiger
I guess we just need to get rid of white males. That will stop mass shootings for sure.

"Guns don't kill people; crackers with penises kill people. Kamala Harris for President!"