The Goat Pen

Tree wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:14 pm
I don't like Biden's chances in keeping his poise against Trump's buffoonery in the debates. OTOH, Trump is failing miserably and I have a hard time believing there are enough people who don't see that to get the idiot re-elected.

The RCP average of polls shows Trump's approval rating right now is 46%. About the same as it was the day he was inaugurated. This despite a Somme-like 3.5 year media barrage, which has completely failed to budge his numbers.

Meanwhile, Biden hasn't even had to explain his outrageously creepy physical behavior toward women and little girls in a #me too world, Tara Reade's accusation, his family's financial ties with the same country that just gave corona virus to the whole world... You know the thing.

Im sure everyone will get caughtup in this cunt’s lack of tact, but its her lack of understanding of economics that always astounds me. Her degree would be better used to wipe her ass.

Hundreds of thousands of Los Angeles County residents may have been infected with the coronavirus by early April, far outpacing the number of officially confirmed cases, according to a report released Monday.

The initial results from the first large-scale study tracking the spread of the coronavirus in the county found that 2.8% to 5.6% of adults have antibodies to the virus in their blood, an indication of past exposure.

That translates to roughly 221,000 to 442,000 adults who have recovered from an infection, according to the researchers conducting the study, even though the county had reported fewer than 8,000 cases at that time.

"We haven't known the true extent of COVID-19 infections in our community because we have only tested people with symptoms, and the availability of tests has been limited," study leader Neeraj Sood, a professor at USC's Price School for Public Policy, said in a statement. "The estimates also suggest that we might have to re-calibrate disease prediction models and rethink public health strategies."


The early results from L.A. County come three days after Stanford researchers reported that the coronavirus appears to have circulated much more widely in Santa Clara County than previously thought.

The Stanford team estimated that 2.5% to 4.2% of Santa Clara County residents had antibodies to the coronavirus in their blood by early April.

Though the county had reported roughly 1,000 cases in early April, the Stanford researchers estimate the actual number was 48,000 to 81,000, or 50 to 85 times greater.

You know, I had a high fever/dry cough/aches in January after I got back from overseas. Not my usual winter “flu”” - I always wondered if that might have been corona.

NOW I KNOW!

I've meet a bunch of people that had Corona in January once they realize they had 1 of 12 symptoms that are also symptoms of the common cold, flu, iron deficiency and menstrual cramps

Haha.

I feel attacked.

My wife and I both got sick at the end of our trip to Disney/Universal in Orlando on January 16. We had the dry cough for weeks after that, and people at both our offices got pretty sick in February. I was actually following the shit going on in Wuhan during that vacation, and I remember noticing how many asians there seemed to be at Universal Studios on our last day. Other than the bullshit coughing through the night that followed, it wasn’t very severe, I assume it was cold or flu. My case was milder than my wife’s, really only notable because I hardly ever get sick at all.

I'd love to be tested and find out I caught it already

I be running around town screaming about how I can have sex with prostitutes and not have to worry

Foreclosure is awesome.

Hey AA - I believes you... I may need to borrow a cup of plasma later, neighbor.

Here's something that can't be argued - U.S. testing has been a massive failure. Chances are you can't get one, and if you do, there's a sizable chance it's not accurate. Testing is the key to fighting this virus and getting our economy out of the ditch and we don't have an effective system STILL.

I do agree that widespread testing would make it easier to continue

unfortunately the early tests from china were not reliable. UK and Australia learned that lesson the hard way

Perhaps if the federal government had focused on building test kits instead of ventilators to meet the non existent demand from governors we would be better off.

eCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:16 pm I'd love to be tested and find out I caught it already

I be running around town screaming about how I can have sex with prostitutes and not have to worry

If you really want to cover all your bases in that regard, you might as well go ahead and contract the AIDS too. You could be like "Look who's laughing now, suckers!!"

"Perhaps if the federal government had focused on building test kits instead of ventilators to meet the non existent demand from governors we would be better off."

LOL at the federal government focusing on building ventilators...

crotch wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:25 pm

What difference does it make how much oil "the US" produces? You, who hate socialism and love capitalism so much, must realize (then again, maybe not) that just b/c the oil is produced in the US doesn't mean it belongs to the US. It's sold to the highest bidders on the open market. You don't get one penny of benefit from it nor does "the US" get any advantage of ownership of it. It belongs to private companies and you get nothing...

Wow, thats not true at all. Oil in the ground is owned by the mineral rights holder, so in the case of federal lands and offshore leases money actually goes directly to the US for a company to pump it out. Most onshore leases pay the landowner, sometimes the state or a domestic company but usually an individual, or family trust or business in most cases about 1/8 or more of the revenue before any costs are even taken out of it. Oil pumped out of the ground in the US is owned by either the US or someone in the US and the oil companies pay them for it, just like Ghana or Senegal or whichever country gets cash when a US or European oil company pumps offshore in West Africa.

hedge wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:41 am "Perhaps if the federal government had focused on building test kits instead of ventilators to meet the non existent demand from governors we would be better off."

LOL at the federal government focusing on building ventilators...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... s-ford-gm/

you think they stepped up to do that on their own?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OxvIU15xtw

Trump: "It was hard to get it aroused, it is hard to get it aroused, but we got it aroused." (1 minute mark)

Just saw my first social media bustup over the federal stimulus extra unemployment benefits and the PPP loans. So there's a local ice cream shop we occasionally go to called Fat Cat Creamery, and yesterday they posted a big long apology. So I looked into it, and apparently they sent an upset email to employees telling them that if they do not accept their job back, they will be ineligible for unemployment benefits. An employee posted the letter to like Reddit and/or Facebook I guess. It also didn't help that their communication style (they call themselves "BossCat" and their employees "Kitties") is reminiscent of that bitch Carole Baskin.

So of course social media sprang on them and vowed never to buy their ice cream again, etc because they're "threatening" employees (by giving them their jobs back, which is hilarious).

So whats going on is that the feds are giving out a blanket $600 per week benefit on top of the regular unemployment, and at the same time they are giving free money via PPP loans to businesses that require them to rehire their employees. So basically, assuming this creamery typically pays what you'd expect for some numskull ice cream scooper, like $20k lets say. Well while that person was furloughed, they are eligible for $200 bucks a week unemployment in Texas. But now what they are getting is $200 + $600 and $800 per week is the equivalent of a $41.6k salary. Of course someone doesn't want their job back. They are getting paid double to not to do shit, much less scoop your fucking ice cream to hipsters and Karens all day. And I'm sure the owner is panicking because they are gonna lose their PPP cash if they aren't able to staff back up.

I've also been going into my own little foray into unemployment benefits here because my wife had her salary and hours cut, but she still gets paid more than what the unemployment benefit would be, so she gets nothing. If you qualify for $1 of unemployment per week right now, you get $601, but $0 is $0. Its not really anything to us (except like a few thousands bucks we wont be getting), but she has people in her lab under her that have had their hours cut from 40 to 10 hours per week and I guess still aren't eligible? Meanwhile the couple people they totally furloughed are probably on $900-$1000 per week while the rest have to get all the shit that everybody used to do done in only a quarter of the week for a quarter of the pay. My wife would make about $60 more per week if they furloughed her than what she is making while working right now. Its all fucking crazy.

The shit is going to hit the fans when non-essential retail stores try to open back up. None of those employees will want their jobs back. The employers are going to have to threaten them and then turn them all in to the state unemployment commissions to get the money cut off before they will accept those jobs. Employers and employees are going to be at each others throats.

if offered employment is the key

the employees can be pissed but as I understand it, if they are called they are obligated to take it