The Goat Pen

Better not come out black.

Congrats though.

So who do those of us who hate corporate Dems vote for in the general? Is Jill Stein running again? Maybe Ralph Nader's nephew? Gimme something here.

Congratulations, DS. I hope all goes well.

Jungle Rat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:51 pm Better not come out black.

LMAO. If it does, I’m calling the IVF facility.

Best wishes DS. Newborn babies bring joy and that's especially welcome these days. Your folks first grandbaby?

Tree wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:58 pm So who do those of us who hate corporate Dems vote for in the general? Is Jill Stein running again? Maybe Ralph Nader's nephew? Gimme something here.

You have two legit candidates - pick the one you hate least. Duh.

Congratulations DS! That’s wonderful. I hope both mother and child do well. To quote Lou Cabrazzi, I hope your first child is a masculine child.

Which hospital?

Tree wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:58 pm So who do those of us who hate corporate Dems vote for in the general? Is Jill Stein running again? Maybe Ralph Nader's nephew? Gimme something here.

Well there’s the Socialist Party candidate, the Green Party candidate, the Communist Party USA, the Revolutionary Communist Party of the USA, for starters. I’m sure you will find political soulmates in any of those.

from the DetroitNews. Michigan Democratic Governor and Trump hater....


Based on these and other results physicians and governments around the world are now using these medications to claimed great effect. Even in the state of Michigan, prominent hospitals such as the Henry Ford Hospital and the University of Michigan have added hydroxychloroquine to their treatment protocols for hospitalized patients with COVID-19.

By doing so, physicians are using these medications “off-label,” that is, without the costly and time-consuming process of Food and Drug Administration approval. The federal agency’s approval process performs the good task of helping to ensure medications safely do what they claim to do. However, lack of FDA approval does not mean lack of efficacy. It means lack of governmental confirmation of efficacy.

“Off-label” use of medications is legal and common. It may even account for as many as 1 in 5 prescriptions in the United States. This practice is even accepted by the FDA. Furthermore, given the severity of the COVID-19 pandemic and the promise of these medications the FDA has avoided condemning the “off-label” use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19.

But if you live in Michigan, and you or a loved one is infected with this potentially lethal disease, you’re out of luck.

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs literally threatened all doctors and pharmacists in the state who prescribe or dispense hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19.

The agency’s March 24 letter warns physicians and pharmacists of professional consequences for the prescribing of hydroxychloroquine (and chloroquine). Beyond the rational recommendation against hoarding as production of this medication needs to be ramped up, the letter deviates into open threats of “administrative action” against the licenses of doctors that prescribe hydroxychloroquine.

The letter also instructs pharmacists to ignore physician orders for this medication. Due to the debate over a pharmacist’s right to refuse to fill medications that go against their religious beliefs, this could place pharmacists in the unprecedented position of being told that they must fill prescriptions that violate their “conscience (religious belief)” but must not fill prescriptions to treat COVID-19.

Even worse, the letter indicates health care providers are “required to report” their fellow physicians who are prescribing these medications. This draconian measure carries ominous Gestapo-like overtones of neighbor reporting neighbor to “authorities.”

During a time of crisis, in which physicians continue to see patients despite not having enough protective gear, this threatening, authoritarian stance from our governor is counterproductive at best.

The implications of Whitmer and her administration’s knee-jerk scare tactics should terrify all Michigan residents. Not only is our state’s top leader threatening the selfless health care workers who are on the frontline trying to save lives, but she’s denying possible life-saving medications to actual COVID-19 victims.

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Whether the drugs helps or not, she is going to have to answer for every person that dies or suffers long term effects of this virus because she prevented a drug that shows promising signs of lessening the effect - and her decisions could be based on nothing more than Trump advised it

meanwhile

In response, Novartis has pledged a global donation of up to 130 million hydroxychloroquine tablets, pending regulatory approvals for COVID-19. Mylan is ramping up production at its West Virginia Facility with enough supplies to make 50 million tablets. Teva is donating 16 million tablets to hospitals around the U.S. On Friday afternoon, Amneal pledged to make 20 million tablets by mid-April.

does anyone care about #metoo anymore?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/joe-bid ... 41946.html

Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine: no proof these anti-malarial drugs prevent novel coronavirus in humans
Parastou Donyai, Professor and Director of Pharmacy Practice, University of Reading
,The Conversation•March 26, 2020 https://news.yahoo.com/chloroquine-hydr ... 34556.html

I hear that chloroquine is being hoarded, but does anybody besides Trump say it works? Not Fauci, not the SG, nobody at the CDC or AMA or FDA...


Oh - breaking news that Boris Johnson tested positive.

The Democrat attempt to politicize the coronavirus outbreak against Trump continues to fail, now spectacularly. Note the latest graph;

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6179.html

The reason Trump’s approval polls are surging, and disapproval polls are tanking, has everything to do with this. According to the Trumptard New York Times;

Trump’s Briefings Are a Ratings Hit. Should Networks Cover Them Live?

Mr. Trump and his coronavirus updates have attracted an average audience of 8.5 million on cable news, roughly the viewership of the season finale of “The Bachelor.”

And the numbers are continuing to rise, driven by intense concern about the virus and the housebound status of millions of Americans who are practicing social distancing. On Monday, nearly 12.2 million people watched Mr. Trump’s briefing on CNN, Fox News and MSNBC, according to Nielsen — “Monday Night Football” numbers.

Millions more are watching on ABC, CBS, NBC and online streaming sites. (Because of the way Nielsen ratings are measured, reliable numbers are available only for cable news.)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... dia/trump-

No wonder the media wants to stop televising the daily briefings. Viewers are seeing Trump for themselves, unfiltered, and they like what they are seeing. And they are noticing that he’s not the deranged Hitler the media has been telling us he is for the past 3 years.

One of the first of the Coronial generation. Congrats...

bluetick wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:05 am Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine: no proof these anti-malarial drugs prevent novel coronavirus in humans
Parastou Donyai, Professor and Director of Pharmacy Practice, University of Reading
,The Conversation•March 26, 2020 https://news.yahoo.com/chloroquine-hydr ... 34556.html

I hear that chloroquine is being hoarded, but does anybody besides Trump say it works? Not Fauci, not the SG, nobody at the CDC or AMA or FDA...


Oh - breaking news that Boris Johnson tested positive.

if you catch the virus, are you going to say no if your doctor says you should try it? Pull out an article from Yahoo news and tell him is full of shit.

Too much chloroquine is poisonous. Symptoms of chloroquine poisoning include feeling sick or having a stomachache, vomiting, feeling sleepy and body shakes. Without urgent medical care, your breathing and heart can stop, or you could slip into a coma. Patients can die very quickly from chloroquine poisoning – within a few hours.

IDK. Trump says it's a game-changer but the actual authorities don't agree yet. Again - in the words of the big man himself: "we'll just have to wait and see."

Sometimes I think prof is more defensive about Trump's image than even the orange-tinted man himself. There's something going on there that is...kinda creepy.

....when you put Dems in control of the government