The Goat Pen

Archaeologists found the ruins of a Roman city off the coast of Tunisia:



How did the 4th century Romans generate such a YUGE amount of greenhouse gases that the sea levels rose enough to swallow up one of their cities?

I'm sure the South Koreans appreciate Trump lecturing them on how to deal with the North. Also, the threats to shut down trade with any country who trades with NK sounds like a great idea. I think we're all in the mood for another great depression.

We should pay them a couple of hundred million to not cause any more trouble.

Trump has unquestionably made America worse today.

Cletus wrote:Trump has unquestionably made America worse today.

He's ending DACA on Tuesday. He's doing just fine!

innocentbystander wrote:

Cletus wrote:Trump has unquestionably made America worse today.

He's ending DACA on Tuesday. He's doing just fine!

Deporting these people who came here as children, have been here for most or all of their lives, and are productive members of our society is nothing short of evil. It's obviously motivated by race but simply calling this a racist policy sells it way short. This is hideous.

I would much rather have those people here than Prof, IB, etc. They are far more productive and better citizens and just better people in general. Hell, for that matter, even if they were drug dealers I'd rather have them here instead of Prof, IB, etc., and for the same reasons...

Awwwwwww.... now you went and hurt my feelings......

FWIW, I disagree with Trump on deporting the DACA's. I think he should leave them alone.

Cletus wrote:

innocentbystander wrote:

Cletus wrote:Trump has unquestionably made America worse today.

He's ending DACA on Tuesday. He's doing just fine!

Deporting these people who came here as children, have been here for most or all of their lives, and are productive members of our society is nothing short of evil. It's obviously motivated by race but simply calling this a racist policy sells it way short. This is hideous.

wrong answer

already have a 100 million working age between 18-65 receiving entitlements
all you have to do to become daca eligible is enroll in a school
then they are eligible for college tuition assistance drivers licenses and medical care now
they get knocked up and have baby here guess what welcome to usa

who's gonna pay for them
should we defund Harvey survivors to pay for them

Im not for deporting any of them that are able to take care of themselves but we shouldn't push them to the front of the line all those who cant take care of themselves--we cant pay for everybpody shouldn't we pay for honest American citizens education first?

in all honesty trump likely is maneuvering politically to use this as some leverage--likley to get our borders more secure ie wall

DACA kids shouldn't be punished for their parents' breaking US immigration law.

Theme song for this shit hole:

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Cry me a river. DACA has been around for all of 5 years so before that we were an absolutely horrible country?

I am a HUUUGE fan of Charlie Daniels! He performed a couple miles from my house on May 12. He looked and played great for an 80 year old, and still on tour. Been a fan since "Uneasy Rider" in '73, when I was just learning how to play the guitar at 13. He has had so many great songs ever since: "Devil Went Down to Georgia", "Long Haired Country Boy", "Legend of Woolley Swamp", "Still in Saigon"... A true American treasure.

But of all those big hits, this one is probably my favorite:

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Start at the 2:30 mark. Actually, Trump is just following through Obama's intention and having solved permanently by congress.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/15/politics/ ... index.html

"I am a HUUUGE fan of Charlie Daniels!"

Shocking...

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-doe ... aca-2017-9

Congress has been trying and failing to reach a deal on immigration for more than a decade, through several changes of party control and even at times when the chambers were much more functional than they are today. This Congress is not going to do anything complicated and controversial without presidential leadership, and Trump is not equipped to provide that.

So in six months, we'll likely be where we are today, with no deal on immigration, with a paralyzed Congress, and with a president who is prepared to use DACA recipients as a bargaining chip yet has no idea how to bargain.

From the PAH's new book....
Still in a mind numbing state of denial, like the knob gobblers here....




“What makes me such a lightning rod for fury? I’m really asking. I’m at a loss,” she writes. Then she says: “I think it’s partly because I’m a woman.”

Hillary still believes she lost because of sexism, the Russians, Comey, and now, even BERNIE SANDERS:

Hillary Clinton is right about Bernie Sanders

And now, there's something new to argue over: Hillary Clinton's forthcoming book, "What Happened." In it, according to excerpts posted by a group of Clinton supporters, she criticizes her primary opponent, Bernie Sanders, for running to be the Democratic nominee while not actually being a Democrat, and for targeting her in a campaign of character assassination, instead of doing a deep dive into policy.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/05/opinions/ ... index.html

That's mind boggling. Just when you thought Hillary couldn't possibly be more self-pitying, entitled and delusional, she writes this. I distinctly remember hearing Bernie say, in a debate, "People are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails." He barely touched that last chapter in Hillary's career of raw criminality, even though he could have, and thereby maybe even have won the nomination. And what did he get in return for his self=restraint and party loyalty? Hillary and the DNC engaged in the only proven case of conspiracy and collusion to rig the 2010 election. Not Trump and the Russians, but Hillary and the DNC against Bernie.

Hillary robbed Bernie WAAAAAY more than Bernie robbed Hillary.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/mcconne ... an-pelosi/

Meanwhile, the candidate who DID win the presidency woke up this morning forgetting that he switched political parties. GOPers weren't happy but they weren't all that surprised either, owing to the prez's delicate mental state.

He once praised McConnell and Ryan too. Not much difference.