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[Professor Tiger]

Incorrect. New Hampshire Union Leader:

Trump won because he outworked Hillary

Every single week between Aug. 1 and Nov. 8, Trump addressed more voters at more rallies than did Clinton.

Across these 15 weeks, Trump appeared at 132 rallies versus Clinton’s 63 — less than half as many. He addressed an estimated 963,155 people, compared to Clinton’s 109,220. Hoft calculates 7,297 guests at the average Trump rally. Just 1,734 reached the typical Clinton function. Participants averaged 9,729 per day for Trump and 1,103 for Clinton.

Trump out-rallied Clinton in key swing states, which he captured. He held 25 in Florida to her 16. In Michigan, he organized eight to her four. Pennsylvania: Trump 15, Clinton 10.

In that period, Hoft also found that Clinton held no rallies in two states where Trump scored electoral votes. Clinton notoriously blew off Wisconsin. Trump held six rallies there and won. She also failed to rally in Maine. Trump did so thrice. He secured one electoral vote among the four that Maine awards by congressional district.

Hoft also counted 23 days where Trump held no rallies or took time off the trail. Amazingly enough, Clinton avoided rallies or relaxed on 57 days — nearly 60 percent of that crucial 99-day interval.

http://www.unionleader.com/columns/Dero ... y-01202017

[Cletus]

I hope Kim Jong-un is rational enough to realise that Trump is stupid enough to actually go to war with North Korea. My hope is that he likes his life as a dictator enough that he’s not really willing to throw the first stone, and subsequently lose everything.

Yeah. We’re at the point where my best hope is that the leader of North Korea, not the President of the United States, will be able to avert a nuclear war.

That there is even a question as to which of the two is more immature, and more likely to violently lash out, is unbelievable. But here we are.

[bluetick]

Ironically, the guy least likely to find himself in a foxhole may be the one to wage the war to end all wars (and everything else).

On a related note.. it'd really suck to win the Powerball and then lose it all to an EMP.

[Toemeesleather]

I hope Kim Jong-un is rational enough to realise that Trump is stupid enough to actually go to war with North Korea. My hope is that he likes his life as a dictator enough that he’s not really willing to throw the first stone, and subsequently lose everything.

Yeah. We’re at the point where my best hope is that the leader of North Korea, not the President of the United States, will be able to avert a nuclear war.

That there is even a question as to which of the two is more immature, and more likely to violently lash out, is unbelievable. But here we are.

Maybe we can try the red line strategy again.

[Professor Tiger]

Or maybe the other Obama strategy of negotiating with the obese teenager, and signing an agreement that gives US approval for them to have unlimited nuclear ICBM's aimed at the US, but only in a few years.

Or maybe the Clinton strategy of giving the obese teenager that complete US plans to preemptively strike North Korea in return for a billion dollar check to the Clinton Foundation.

[aTm]

We will eventually have this same problem with Iran

[Professor Tiger]

Correct. As I wrote on the other thread, whatever Trump does with NK will have negative consequences times 2.

And even if Trump does exactly what the Left wants - nothing - they will blame him for the very predictable negative consequences, hate Trump even more (if that is humanly possible), maybe tie it to the Russians somehow, and definitely demand Trump's impeachment.

[Jungle Rat]

Bomb the fuck out of them. Eliminate the problem.

[Professor Tiger]

That is an option, with its own set of pro's and con's.

[bluetick]

Bomb the fuck out of them. Eliminate the problem.

Not that simple. 20 mi people in Seoul are in their crosshairs, as well as Japan. As well as our military there. Millions friendly to the U.S. could die.

Better to convince/bribe China to take out the fat kid.

[Professor Tiger]

Better to convince/bribe China to take out the fat kid.

Like that will ever happen. We can't even get China to economically squeeze Fatso, much less whack him. Even if they wanted to, they would have as hard a time whacking him as we would.

Please be serious and give a real world statement of what you think Trump should do about NK.

[Toemeesleather]

The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.'

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chai ns to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris --car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning: Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

[10ac]

Nearly one-quarter of all federal inmates are illegal immigrants and virtually all are in deportation proceedings or already face removal orders, according to a new Homeland Security report.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dhs-2 ... le/2630999

[bluetick]

Better to convince/bribe China to take out the fat kid.

Like that will ever happen. We can't even get China to economically squeeze Fatso, much less whack him. Even if they wanted to, they would have as hard a time whacking him as we would.

Please be serious and give a real world statement of what you think Trump should do about NK.

Serious as I can be - he should shut the fuck up about NK. No tweets, no pet phrases like "fury like the world has never seen." Just watch cable tv and read folders of friendly puff pieces and let our top military minds handle things.

Serious question for you: do you have any children and grandchildren?

[sardis]

Our top military minds got us into Iraq.

Anyway, NOAA has updated their hurricane prediction...

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/09/noaa-no ... -2017.html

"...there is a 60 percent chance of an above-normal season."

[10ac]

Again?

[sardis]

Per CNN, R's most likely will pick up 8 seats in 2018.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/09/politics/ ... index.html

[Jungle Rat]

Snipers always work.

[Professor Tiger]

...he should shut the fuck up about NK. No tweets, no pet phrases like "fury like the world has never seen." Just watch cable tv and read folders of friendly puff pieces...

We get it. You hate Trump. You really, really hate him. A lot. But this silly expression of your hatred of Trump did NOT answer my question. So I will rephrase the question in hopes of a real answer this time: Other than not tweeting, using phrases you don't like, watching cable tv and reading puff pieces, what do you want Trump to do about NK? If your answer is "nothing," then just say so and own it.

...and let our top military minds handle things.

You are aware that the top military people are not in charge of what to do about NK, right? They present options to the POTUS for him to decide, he (not they) decides, then they carry out that decision.

Now, with that basics civics refresher lesson completed, I will rephrase my original question accordingly: what do you want Trump to order "our top military minds" to do in order to "handle things" with NK, as you put it?

[Professor Tiger]

Serious question for you: do you have any children and grandchildren?

Yes, three grown young men. In a few years, if Kim has destroyed Honolulu, Anchorage, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Phoenix and Denver, and/or if an Ayatollah has also destroyed Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington, Atlanta and Miami, and we're on the front porch of our farm watching the sun go down, living like the Amish, and they ask me why did it all happen, I will use my last battery power to show them these clips.

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