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Hacksaw wrote:

Professor Tiger wrote:

Jungle Rat wrote:4 MORE YEARS!!!

Heh. I think Obama just got reelected tonight.

Let's not get carried away.

It's over

VolTone. Well said.

Dr. Strangelove wrote:This city where he was in hiding is apparently a big army installation. Fuck them. May be true that Pakistani intelligence helped us get him, but he's undoubtedly been getting help from others in the same agencies for 10 years

Totally agree. If the ISI hadn't been protecting him, he would have been dead long ago.

Professor Tiger wrote:

Jungle Rat wrote:4 MORE YEARS!!!

Heh. I think Obama just got reelected tonight.

well...at least he is finally...FINALLY! proud to be an American, apparently......good for him.

Sources saying it was U.S. Navy Seals in helicopter raid.

VolTone, your post was apparently scooped up by the NSA. You'll probably get a visit tomorrow morning.

One of the things Obama ran on was that we had taken our eyes off of Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden in going into Iraq and that he was going to put more men (he did) and emphasis on those factors.

Whatever it is, glad to see Osama dead.

Expect some attempted response by al Queda in the next month

There are several users that have posted less than 3 times that may find themselves moderated, you guys that are mods might see a post that says "awaiting approval" that means nobod can see it but you. Please approve posts by known users and reject spam.

lol

We've had plenty of assets devoted to finding Bin Laden since 9/11. It just took longer than we would have liked. If Obama had really done anything differently than Bush, it stands to reason that it wouldn't have taken him almost 2 and-a-half years to find OBL. It was our military and intelligence folks who accomplished this. It was only a matter of time. Bush started it. Obama finished it. Credit goes to both of them.

It's sad that this will quickly be politicized. Let's all just enjoy this moment while it lasts.

LOL. Sure he did. He escalated the war and U.S. presence in Afghanistan significantly (increasing the military presence there 3-fold). And 2 years would be about right if it was only based upon that escalation. Still, one can't say cause and effect. This may be totally unrelated to the increased money, effort and personnel in Afghanistan, Obama may not deserve all the credit, but hey, he gets some simply for approving this weekends operation. To just discount that President Obama did reemphasize Afghanistan and Bin Laden would be an error.

This isn't politics, nor is it a criticism. Give the President his due.

obama kicked ass

ballsy ballsy move on obamas part

cnn has pictures of the compound with fires burning --I don't think its live because those fires appear to be occuring at night. cnn also said 5 killed including son and a women someone was using as a shield . I bet binladen was using his youngest wife as a shield before he got 20 bullets from and automatic weapon probaly bonnie and clyde style

obama as much as I hate his domestic just got my vote

From George Bush:

Nearly a decade later, Bush got the call that he had been hoping to receive since September 11.

“Earlier this evening, President Obama called to inform me that American forces killed Osama bin Laden,” Bush said in a statement released late Sunday.

Bush said he congratulated President Obama and the U.S. forces “who devoted their lives to this mission” to find bin Laden.

“This momentous achievement marks a victory for America,” Bush said.

The former president said Obama and American forces “have our everlasting gratitude.”

Security apparently is being ramped up around mosques and synagugues and around transportation hubs.

Owlman wrote:LOL. Sure he did. He escalated the war and U.S. presence in Afghanistan significantly (increasing the military presence there 3-fold). And 2 years would be about right if it was only based upon that escalation. Still, one can't say cause and effect. This may be totally unrelated to the increased money, effort and personnel in Afghanistan, Obama may not deserve all the credit, but hey, he gets some simply for approving this weekends operation. To just discount that President Obama did reemphasize Afghanistan and Bin Laden would be an error.

This isn't politics, nor is it a criticism. Give the President his due.

I already gave Obama his due. I've consistently given him credit for continuing Bush's policies in the War on Terror.

But to draw a conclusion based on Obama supposedly "emphasizing" Afghanistan is a joke. For one thing, Obama could afford to "emphasize" Afghanistan, because Iraq was winding down by the time he took office. And this operation will turn out to have been accomplished by a relatively small group of military and intelligence people whose numbers are probably roughly the same as those who were engaged in this endeavor during the Bush administration. This operation did not take place in Afghanistan. It was launched from a base inside Pakistan and the entire operation took place inside Pakistan. This was a victory for the U.S.A., period.

Obama gave Bush credit and Bush gave Obama credit. That's the way it should be.

crashcourse wrote:obama kicked ass

ballsy ballsy move on obamas part

cnn has pictures of the compound with fires burning --I don't think its live because those fires appear to be occuring at night. cnn also said 5 killed including son and a women someone was using as a shield . I bet binladen was using his youngest wife as a shield before he got 20 bullets from and automatic weapon probaly bonnie and clyde style

obama as much as I hate his domestic just got my vote

You're drunk.

LOL. Tough on you isn't it. You've conveniently forgotten Bush administration saying near the end of his term that killing/capturing Bin Laden was not a major priority. Congrats to the intelligence community, who has been working on this for a long time, congrats to President Obama for the courage to go into Pakistan (an ally) to do this and congrats to Bin Laden for finding out about his bunch of virgins.

I like what David Gergen said, sooner or later people are going determine how long Pakistan's intelligence knew Osama Bin Laden lived there.

Owlman wrote:LOL. Tough on you isn't it. You've conveniently forgotten Bush administration saying near the end of his term that killing/capturing Bin Laden was not a major priority. Congrats to the intelligence community, who has been working on this for a long time, congrats to President Obama for the courage to go into Pakistan (an ally) to do this and congrats to Bin Laden for finding out about his bunch of virgins.

Tough on me? I'm happy. This is a great night. I'm celebrating the good news. You, on the other hand, seem to be too wrapped-up in political partisanship to be able to enjoy it for what it is. I pity you. There's more to life than politics, you know.