The Goat Pen

its absolutely debatable. The only benefit to Obamacare was helping impoverished Americans living at the absolute bottom level of income to have subsidized health care.

What Obamacare did to the masses as a result of standardizing health care minimums with high deductibles is the equivalent of adding thousands of dollars of tax onto an individual that goes up each year.

yes, there are going to be pockets of people who say Obamacare helped them but for more than 120 million people who already had private health insurance, at best it was a net zero and in no way lowered or controlled their health care costs.

That's exactly why it's not debatable that it was better than the travesty beforehand. But at least you did actually come with something resembling debate, unlike poor Sardis.

Exactly what I figured. MEGA! Ya old fucking coot.

Crotch at least has an excuse. He lives in rural Kentucky, nobody expects anything more than blind fealty to the favorite professional wrestler of the moment (in this case Trump) and hatred for the other wrestlers (the democrats). That's about the extent of political comprehension you can expect from these people, but it's OK, they're generally harmless otherwise. Trump will be gone soon and they'll go back to their corn husk dolls and monthly hootananny's and life will go on without them, as it has for centuries. Let them have their moment in the sun...

And Trump trolled Marie Yovanovich during her testimony. Naturally his loyal followers cheer while he continues to debase the office he holds. Whereas Fox used terms like 'stupid' and 'misguided' to describe that brazen act of dumbassery.

Meanwhile, echoes of the Mueller investigation as Roger Stone was convicted on all seven counts, bringing the number of Trump-associate felony convictions to six.

Later in the evening it was learned that there were multiple witnesses to Sondland's call to Trump about the 'investigations'. So much for the thin hearsay defense.

Just another Friday.

Tree wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:59 pm

its absolutely debatable. The only benefit to Obamacare was helping impoverished Americans living at the absolute bottom level of income to have subsidized health care.

What Obamacare did to the masses as a result of standardizing health care minimums with high deductibles is the equivalent of adding thousands of dollars of tax onto an individual that goes up each year.

yes, there are going to be pockets of people who say Obamacare helped them but for more than 120 million people who already had private health insurance, at best it was a net zero and in no way lowered or controlled their health care costs.

That's exactly why it's not debatable that it was better than the travesty beforehand. But at least you did actually come with something resembling debate, unlike poor Sardis.

the masses suffer to support the few

that isn't a sustainable solution and thats exactly how it played out. Unfortunately its paved the way for the next level, medicare for all, which I'm sure you are for because you have complete faith in the government ability to provide essential services to 325 million people.

If Obamacare was so great, why do most in his party want to do something else.

Um. Because he's not President anymore? Just guessing

Well, at least we know who was responsible for Black Hawk Down now...

I wish a Black Hawk would crash down on you.......

China signs defense agreement with South Korea as U.S. angers Seoul with demand for $5 billion troop payment
Yahoo News Video Yahoo News Video•November 18, 2019

The defense ministers of South Korea and China have agreed to develop their security ties to ensure stability in northeast Asia, the latest indication that Washington’s longstanding alliances in the region are fraying.

Jordan destroys the Democrats again.......

Is this the same Jordan who brushed off sex abuse while as a wrestling coach at Ohio State?

During the past week of supposed impeachment hearings, Trump's approval numbers have gone up. This is according to the RCP average of a dozen national polls. Note the graph of the past week:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6179.html

Supposed impeachment hearings? LMAO....

Jordan throws another left hook at the sleazy Democrats.... Shiff and his corrupt moronic buddies are becoming punch drunk.

You love that kool aid don't you?

The only thing Jordan has ever thrown were the complaints of sexual abuse he threw into the trash can at Ohio State...

hedge wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:12 pm Supposed impeachment hearings? LMAO....

Well, they might as well be a redux of the Three Stooges, or something other slapstick farcical comedy. That’s what they look like.