The Goat Pen

for anyone keeping score at home, Vindman was born in the soviet owner region of Ukraine.

My wife’s grandparents were born in Ukraine. She grew up hearing the Ukrainian language spoken at the dinner table. She still cooks some Ukrainian dishes. That doesn’t make her opinion about Trump’s phone call more “explosive” or “game changing” or “blockbuster” than anybody else’s opinion - including LTC Vindman’s.

it speaks to his motivation

He wants to be the Secretary of Defense if the Dem's win.

What's his motivation?

bluetick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:19 pm

BigRedMan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:17 am Fuck all that. All media needs to be held accountable for their bias. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to promote a ISIS leader as a religious scholar should be fired.

Agreed. And Laura Ingraham needs to get the boot for making Lt. Col. Vindman out to be a traitor. You'd agree with that too.

Sure. I am truly done with it all. No one wants to report facts, just their spin and it is exhausting.

Justice.....

She must be a college professor. Teaches either womyn's studies, sociology, education, journalism or English.

"He's not playing with a full deck, folks..."

Makes him perfect for the massive retarded population that makes up the majority of the American public...

Hedge.....your response would have been more accurate if you had inserted 'Democrat' instead of retarded before the word population.... I never like to see the word retarded used anywhere. Democrat is more fitting anyway wouldn't you agree?

Political ads suck. Either way

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... NEoKUjO10g

Hi Prof.

His presidency isn't on treacherous ground. He doesn't give a shit if he gets impeached, which he will. He'll take it as a badge of honor and use it to fire up his base. Unless something truly heinous comes out before the Senate trial (and it could, but it really is hard to imagine anything heinous enough to turn his minions against him) and he gets removed from office (highly doubtful), he'll claim impeachment as a victory. Day is night, black is white. Strange times...

that plane video just depresses me

I'm sure it was like this in the 60's, but I didn't grow up in this level of civil discourse among Americans.

Western Kentucky was heavily democratic , hell my grandparents were life long democrats - and I never saw that kind of nonsense growing up or as an adult until the later years of Dubya

We voted for who we thought would do the best job and then we went back to getting on with our lives.

What's the plane video?

I was reading a story where the democratic movers and shakers are now coming to realization that Elizabeth Warren may very well be the strongest candidate in the field and it scares the shit out of them, they see her as more progressive than Sanders - breaking up tech, implement a 3 trillion dollar health plan that equates to $5700 annually for every American (not counting the surplus of non Americans), and going after the banking , pharmaceutical, etc

She pretty much represents everything that the American people voted against in the last election when giving Trump power.

hedge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:32 am What's the plane video?

that woman losing her shit over a Trump supporter

"We voted for who we thought would do the best job and then we went back to getting on with our lives."

Well let's face it, we've never had a president who tweets shit all day every day and who wants to be the center of attention at all times. You don't even have time to get on with you life with something like that. It wasn't that long ago when this was considered big presidential news:

Seriously, watch that video, it's only a minute long...