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Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:46 pm
by Saint
Like I said, we're fucked. Well, not us as bad as our kids.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:58 pm
by eCat
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-seven percent (47%) disapprove.
The latest figures include 38% who Strongly Approve of the job Trump is doing and 40% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -2.
Compared to Obama at the same time in his Presidency
47% Total Approval
52% Total Disapproval
24% Strongly Approve
40% Strongly Disapprove
Index Rating of -16
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:03 pm
by Jungle Rat
eCat wrote:Jungle Rat wrote:We were all better off financially when Clinton was in charge. If you didn't make money under his watch you weren't paying attention.
Bill Gates had more to do with that than Bill Clinton
Bill Gates didnt own yahoo or google nor netflix back then. He did well though. Helped me a bunch but it all happened under Billy. Best financial years of our 50plus years so far right? Built my house. CAAAASSSSSHHHHH!
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:05 pm
by Jungle Rat
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:37 pm
by Professor Tiger
Saint wrote:eCat wrote:Saint wrote:I don't think Trump's policies are beneficial to the country. There is scant proof of that right now and if the economy doesn't turn around quickly, he's going to be out on his ass and we'll have to let the Dems try again.
if the economy doesn't turn around quickly? I got news for you, this is as good as it gets for the US economy.
Then we're fucked. Better buy more bullets
I don't know which country whose economy you are bemoaning. Maybe that of the glorious worker's paradise of Venezuela, whose socialist economic model you'd like to bring here. But the US economy is doing great by any measure since Trump got elected. Hot off the presses:
Job market bounces back in March with 196,000 gain in payrolls
Nonfarm payrolls expanded by 196,000 and the unemployment rate held steady at 3.8%.
Wage gains fell off the recent strong pace, increasing just 0.14% for the month and 3.2% year over year, below expectations of the 3.4% pace from last month.
The numbers came a month after February's jaw-dropping gain of just 20,000, which was revised up to 33,000 in the March report.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/05/nonfarm ... -2019.html
Oh the horror...
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:42 pm
by hedge
"and a bunch of people are going to be pissed off because the 100 million are taking it in the shorts for the 20 million"
What do you propose we do about the 20 million? Just let them die?
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:45 pm
by Professor Tiger
70% of Wall Street thinks Trump will be reelected in 2020
While Biden was viewed as the most stock market-friendly possible Democratic candidate, more than 70% expect Trump to be reelected.
Elections can affect financial markets; the Dow rallied 8 percent from the 2016 election to year-end as investors grew confident in tax reform and big spending.
RBC also said that if Biden does not declare, or the polling data suggests that he won't win the nomination, it could weigh on the market.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/05/70perce ... -2020.html
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:54 pm
by Saint
Is that why he's begging the fed to.lower interest rates? Wage gains are nil. Keep trying, Prof. The money at the top ain't getting to the bottom or even middle. It's been the same song for 30 years
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:56 pm
by Saint
hedge wrote:"and a bunch of people are going to be pissed off because the 100 million are taking it in the shorts for the 20 million"
What do you propose we do about the 20 million? Just let them die?
I propose that you die
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:58 pm
by eCat
hedge wrote:"and a bunch of people are going to be pissed off because the 100 million are taking it in the shorts for the 20 million"
What do you propose we do about the 20 million? Just let them die?
there is no easy decision but finding middle ground for the masses by lowering the majority to raise up the minority is not the answer - -whether its health care, social security or income security
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:00 pm
by Saint
And when Trump shuts down the border, that's going to cost him a lot of votes. I'm sure it won't bother a bologna and mayonnaise on wonder bread guy like you, Prof, but lots of people like guacamole
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:02 pm
by eCat
Saint wrote:Is that why he's begging the fed to.lower interest rates? Wage gains are nil. Keep trying, Prof. The money at the top ain't getting to the bottom or even middle. It's been the same song for 30 years
lower rates sustain housing and auto - big ticket consumer items that keep the economy going
you want to know why wage gains are nil?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... n-12-days/
multiply that by ...oh...every fucking day
because the politicians want to flood the country with unskilled labor
you want wage gains or guacamole?
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:10 pm
by Saint
Does that explain 30 years of it? Low wages are a product of unfettered greed. Blaming Mexicans completely misses the point. US companies have been outsourcing for years. The problem is still the top and all Trump is doing is rewarding those at the top. But keep thinking things are fine and dandy
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:13 pm
by eCat
Saint wrote:Does that explain 30 years of it? Low wages are a product of unfettered greed. Blaming Mexicans completely misses the point. US companies have been outsourcing for years. The problem is still the top and all Trump is doing is rewarding those at the top. But keep thinking things are fine and dandy
I never said things are fine and dandy
I said this is the best the US economy gets
you rail about totalitarianism , what is it you want Trump (or any president) to do for those at the bottom?
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:13 pm
by hedge
"there is no easy decision but finding middle ground for the masses by lowering the majority to raise up the minority is not the answer - -whether its health care, social security or income security"
If you don't have a solution, quit complaining...
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:31 pm
by Tree
Saint wrote:Is that why he's begging the fed to.lower interest rates? Wage gains are nil. Keep trying, Prof. The money at the top ain't getting to the bottom or even middle. It's been the same song for 30 years
Lowering interest rates is actually part of the problem. Obama had 0% interest on his watch and all that does is encourage a bunch of investment that cannot all possibly pay off in the big picture which means you're "solving" the problem by creating another bubble. The real solution is very simple and there's only one way to do it. Don't let a millionth of the population have half the wealth. Bernie talks about this all the time. End Christmas for the 0.1% and we can actually have a more reasonable society.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:39 pm
by Saint
eCat wrote:Saint wrote:Does that explain 30 years of it? Low wages are a product of unfettered greed. Blaming Mexicans completely misses the point. US companies have been outsourcing for years. The problem is still the top and all Trump is doing is rewarding those at the top. But keep thinking things are fine and dandy
I never said things are fine and dandy
I said this is the best the US economy gets
you rail about totalitarianism , what is it you want Trump (or any president) to do for those at the bottom?
Not the bottom, fuck those guys and fuck the ones at the top. What about the middle class? We grew up in a time that families could afford many of the simple things that are now out of reach for a growing number of middle class families. Now hardly anyone can afford a home or health care, much less a new car or fancy vacation. I don't know what a president or any politician can do, save hold off the barbarians at the gate if they're inclined. The one we have now is a barbarian but it doesn't matter. We're too far gone as a society to have the values necessary for the middle class (and even the lower class) to flourish but that's our only solution. It won't come from govt or corporations unless it's mandated by the people while we still have a voice.
Like I said, we're fucked.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:26 am
by Jungle Rat
Enjoy
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:29 pm
by eCat
hedge wrote:"there is no easy decision but finding middle ground for the masses by lowering the majority to raise up the minority is not the answer - -whether its health care, social security or income security"
If you don't have a solution, quit complaining...
That's what AOC says too
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:30 pm
by eCat
Tree wrote:Saint wrote:Is that why he's begging the fed to.lower interest rates? Wage gains are nil. Keep trying, Prof. The money at the top ain't getting to the bottom or even middle. It's been the same song for 30 years
Lowering interest rates is actually part of the problem. Obama had 0% interest on his watch and all that does is encourage a bunch of investment that cannot all possibly pay off in the big picture which means you're "solving" the problem by creating another bubble. The real solution is very simple and there's only one way to do it. Don't let a millionth of the population have half the wealth. Bernie talks about this all the time. End Christmas for the 0.1% and we can actually have a more reasonable society.
and how do you propose this transfer of wealth?