The Goat Pen

"Common reasons include high taxes, the state budget stalemate, crime, the unemployment rate and the weather."

The weather! I guess Toe and Prof want to blame that on Obama too...

No. The weather is all George Bush's fault.

Fuckin Hurricane Machines

Do you think the population is sharply declining?


Were I the author I might have said population has been in decline for decades..but who am I to question the Tribune? They're selling papers.

Owlman wrote:

Toemeesleather wrote:Have you looked at Kansas and Louisiana who both went maximum conservative economic theory?

Worse than Detroit, OMG!

Let's see, a state versus a city? Yeah, worse.

Ok, feel free to post the bankruptcy proceedings from each.

Chicagoans can at least afford to leave. KS and LA sufferers can't rub two nickels together for bus fare.

Yuge shakeup in the Trump campaign is being spun as taking the campaign 'in a new direction.' Interestingly though, Manafort gets demoted 48 hrs after the NYTimes ran that piece about him, the Russian strongman/Ukraine leader he worked for and the ledger tying him to 12 mil cash.

And then you have Ivanka, supposedly the smart one of the bunch, off vacationing with Putin's girlfriend. Smooth move.

Toemeesleather wrote:

Owlman wrote:

Toemeesleather wrote:Have you looked at Kansas and Louisiana who both went maximum conservative economic theory?

Worse than Detroit, OMG!

Let's see, a state versus a city? Yeah, worse.

Ok, feel free to post the bankruptcy proceedings from each.

Bankruptcy? A Trump supporter using bankruptcy as an example of lack of financial acumen? Funny. GTFOH.

As I have said for the past year. Trump ain't winning. Stop wasting your time with him.

Ok, feel free to post the bankruptcy proceedings from each.[/quote]

Bankruptcy? A Trump supporter using bankruptcy as an example of lack of financial acumen? Funny. GTFOH.[/quote]


So, bankruptcy is no indicator of financial health....change the subject to Trump.....gottcha.

Did Trump bankrupt Detroit?

No, just many of the contractors he hired over the years...

Gotcha? what an idiotic response. You've never heard me say anything about Trumps bankruptcies. I've owned businesses and work with business owners. Bankruptcy is a tool (according to Christians an immoral tool) in business. Likewise, no business pays a 35% tax. We do not have the highest effective tax rates in the industrialized world, not close. Tell a business that they had an 15% tax rate but no deductions and they will howl.

While I've never said anything about Trump's bankruptcies, I know some people who have dealt with projects of his including one 6 years ago I advised to get out of a deal with him (only losing $300,000). She ended up losing 1.2 million.

You changed the subject to Trump, not me. Stop crying.

Who's had more bankruptcies.....Loosianna or Detroit?

Crying? Mirror, mirror. You are showing your lack of knowledge about state budgets. Detroit could declare bankruptcy, (opposed by many in the city at the time). Kansas and Louisiana that is much more difficult.

Toemeesleather wrote:Do you think the population is sharply declining?


Were I the author I might have said population has been in decline for decades..but who am I to question the Tribune? They're selling papers.

You don't know know to read that chart. Not surprising.

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Flip MS and LA, and you've got a Republican vs. Democrat map right there.

Owlman wrote:Gotcha? what an idiotic response. You've never heard me say anything about Trumps bankruptcies. I've owned businesses and work with business owners. Bankruptcy is a tool (according to Christians an immoral tool) in business. Likewise, no business pays a 35% tax. We do not have the highest effective tax rates in the industrialized world, not close. Tell a business that they had an 15% tax rate but no deductions and they will howl.

While I've never said anything about Trump's bankruptcies, I know some people who have dealt with projects of his including one 6 years ago I advised to get out of a deal with him (only losing $300,000). She ended up losing 1.2 million.

Dang Owlman, you sound as rich as AA.

"You changed the subject to Trump, not me."

How dare anyone change the subject that Toe has laid down from on high...

I wish someone would lay a steel toe boot down across your face.

Fwiw, we don't use the term 'hobnail boot' around here.

I don't want that...