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hedge wrote:How many people has Trump said he wants to see locked up? Clearly that kind of talk is red meat to the more rabid sectors of the base. Looks like some dems have taken a page out of Trump's playbook, although I won't be shocked if those same type of Trump supporters take great umbrage at this kind of thing being directed towards him...

there is probably some hyprocrisy on my part but I find it sad that a few hours after being sworn in , she leads with this.

Trump was talking shit before the election so you know what you got

This is more of a - fuck you , I'm elected now, I'm gonna be me.

on top of that, she says this is what she says to her young son?

Damn, Puritan!

I don't want any politician using the term motherfucker in public....ever

Life isn't a Tarantino film

My goodness. Trump is the rudest, crudest politician I've ever heard - true, he may not curse, but the substance of what he says is certainly deliberately rude and crude - and yet not a peep from you. But let somebody say motherfucker, then whoa motherfucker, it's on!

hedge wrote:My goodness. Trump is the rudest, crudest politician I've ever heard - true, he may not curse, but the substance of what he says is certainly deliberately rude and crude - and yet not a peep from you. But let somebody say motherfucker, then whoa motherfucker, it's on!

oh he curses, and I"m quite sure Obama probably has muttered motherfucker a few times in his life

but not on a podium in front of voters.

Yes, I admitted there was some hypocrisy on my part. Trump can say grab them by the pussy - not presidential, but also not in a public setting.

Trump no doubt set the tone. The issue now is - is this what people want long term? I know if I had the choice, I would have rather voted for a guy like Obama who conducted himself with a little edge but always with decorum, a good family man and well spoken rather than Trump, but Trump was literally the only candidate that was willing to take a stand that wasn't calculated by poll results .represented the people and not the party. I've said from day one he's a horrible messenger , he just has the right message.

Can these voters say this about Rashid Tlaib? I doubt it. - unless they specifically said they wanted a candidate to talk like Samuel Jackson. There were probably 5 other candidates all preaching the same platform.

I will admit that if Trump had said something similar, the liberal media would be wringing their hands and decrying him for it. But face it, the dems have been beaten down the past two years. Politics is, sadly but certainly on some level, a game. When the guy that was getting beaten down finally gets back up and has some advantage, you have to expect a little whooping and hollering. I doubt we'll be treated to daily outbursts like that, but it was a party atmosphere in a far left setting. I chalk it up to youthful exuberance...

youthful is the key

They aren't taking over but progressive voters have clearly shown they are pissed about Bernie being derailed by a rigged democratic party and are done with the old moderate mentality.

Polls show they don't represent Millennial as a whole. Believe it or not, there are some polls that show Millennials are more conservative than progressive. I'm guessing they didn't start that way, but landing that first big job and paying Uncle Sam 33% of their pay told them maybe lowering taxes for working people versus giving it to the government for communal spending its a better approach. Milliennials are now at the stage of their life where buying a house, marriage and children are their focus - and hearing Ortez tell them they should be funding education, healthcare and housing for the generations that follow them doesn't resonate with them anymore.

At any rate, these young progressives are brash and feel they have a mandate (more of a self determined one) to take down the old guard.

My concern is they lack both the experience and wisdom to understand what they are doing.

They'll end up regretting their political beliefs about as much as they do their hipster Japanese spine tattoo when they are my age (nod to Riley Reid)

I'm glad I live in an age where Riley Reid is a known commodity...

did you really know her or did you have to look her up?

Good god of course I did.

No one does step daughter porn better than her

right on cue

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) is floating an income tax rate as high as 60 to 70 percent on the highest-earning Americans to combat carbon emissions.

Speaking with Anderson Cooper in a “60 Minutes” interview scheduled to air Sunday, Ocasio-Cortez said a dramatic increase in taxes could support her “Green New Deal” goal of eliminating the use of fossil fuels within 12 years — a goal she acknowledges is ambitious.

“What is the problem with trying to push our technological capacities to the furthest extent possible?” Ocasio-Cortez asked. “There’s an element where yeah, people are going to have to start paying their fair share in taxes.”

Ocasio-Cortez pointed out that in a progressive tax rate system, not all income for a high earner is taxed at such a high rate. Rather, rates increase on each additional level of income, with dramatic increases on especially high earnings, such as $10 million.

When Cooper pointed out such a tax plan would be a “radical” move, Ocasio-Cortez embraced the label, arguing the most influential historical figures, from Abraham Lincoln to Franklin D. Roosevelt, were called radical for their agendas as well.

eCat wrote:No one does step daughter porn better than her

Sara Luvv has got some good ones in that genre too...

Breaking the tradition of the secretive Nobel Commission, former secretary Geir Lundestad admitted that Barack Obama was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize in 2009 in the hope that it would strengthen his presidency.

Not only did Lundestad acknowledge that the decision was purely political during an interview with the AP news agency, but he suggested that in hindsight it wasn’t such a grand idea.

Meanwhile, the prestige of a Nobel Peace Prize is all but finished, as Fox News host Laura Ingraham noted online.

“Seven years later the Nobel Secretary catches on to the obvious. Obama’s receiving the Peace Prize diminished the award forever,” she tweeted.

Seven years later the Nobel Secretary catches on to the obvious. Obama’s receiving the Peace Prize diminished the award forever. https://t.co/7dhACZtU10

— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) January 3, 2019

Lundestad dished on the the controversial decision — Obama had been in office just eight months and had accomplished very little — in his memoir, “Secretary of Peace.”

“No Nobel Peace Prize ever elicited more attention than the 2009 prize to Barack Obama,” Lundestad wrote, according to the BBC.

“Even many of Obama’s supporters believed that the prize was a mistake,” he says. “In that sense the committee didn’t achieve what it had hoped for.”

He also said Obama considered not going to Oslo, Norway, to receive the award, as is customary — a rare occasion that usually happens when dissidents are held back by their governments.

“In the White House they quickly realized that they needed to travel to Oslo,” wrote Lundestad.

I think almost everybody thought it was a little odd for Obama to get the peace prize, but I also don't think one mistake "all but finishes" the prestige of the Nobel prize...

Mike Pence looks like Race Bannon...

Nobel Prize = Heisman Trophy

Says the man whose greatest award was 3rd prize at county FFA hog contest...

I have no idea who has won any Nobel Peace Prize since Obama won. I can remember several from the years before that though (Al Gore/IPCC, UN/Khofi Annan, Jimmy Carter) Im guessing that largely has to do with whether or not the person was already famous here in the US though rather than the prestige of the award.