The Goat Pen

I went out to zillow to look at my home value. Its jumped considerably since the last time I looked at it which was probably around 2012 give or take a year.

hedge wrote:"Housing market isn't going down here. My house gained 11k this past month on Zillow"

Known crack houses have added value...

Your mom helping out has increased sales.

I think Zillow is the closest to determining real value besides a hands on realtor. And boy would I like to get my hands on my realtor. Yummy

As for the wall, Trump thinks his supporters actually support him, rather than the wall. He's wrong: his supporters support the wall, and are willing to tolerate the douchebag in order to get it. Without the wall, there's no reason to keep the douchebag.

Talking big about shutting down the government for the wall and then rolling over for Pelosi is the biggest blunder Trump has made as president in terms of hurting his base.Whatever chances he had for re-election in 2020, they are substantially lower unless he turns it around

I guess he really is a Republican...

The wall will never be built.

Morons

today's least shocking news

David Hogg is leaving the Sunshine State and shipping off to Boston -- the Marjory Stoneman Douglas student's been accepted to Harvard.

David's mom shared the incredible news this week after her son finally allowed her to spread the word. As you can imagine, she's super proud and said she's excited for David's bright future!

The Stoneman Douglas grad -- who emerged as one of his school's leaders after the mass shooting in Parkland, FL -- says he plans to major in political science. It seems right up his alley ... you'll recall, David helped organize the March For Our Lives rally that attracted nearly 800,000 people pushing for sensible gun reform.

David should feel right at home on campus ... he's already spoken twice this year at Harvard, and some of his mother's relatives attended the prestigious institution.
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I believe that was his goal from the start

Winning

hedge wrote:Wait, you think Elizabeth Warren is hot and you want to fuck the shit out of her? Man, you haven't gotten much pussy in your life have you?

Yep. She's got brains, class and knows how the world works. I'd be on that ass like back pockets, brah.

Figures. Dumpster diving at its finest

no surprise that a Military General wants a never ending military presence in a war zone. Hate Trump or not, the fact that he shows no loyalty to those who aren't on board with his agenda does have some advantages

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The mainstream media has attacked President Donald Trump’s decision to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria as impulsive, blindsiding his own national security team. But detailed, published accounts of the policy process over the course of the year tell a very different story. They show that senior national security officials and self-interested institutions have been playing a complicated political game for months aimed at keeping Trump from wavering on our indefinite presence on the ground in Syria.

The entire episode thus represents a new variant of a familiar pattern dating back to Vietnam in which national security advisors put pressure on reluctant presidents to go along with existing or proposed military deployments in a war zone. The difference here is that Trump, by publicly choosing a different policy, has blown up their transparent schemes and offered the country a new course, one that does not involve a permanent war state.

The relationship between Trump and his national security team has been tense since the beginning of his administration. By mid-summer 2017, Defense Secretary James Mattis and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs General Joseph Dunford had become so alarmed at Trump’s negative responses to their briefings justifying global U.S. military deployments that they decided to do a formal briefing in “the tank,” used by the Joint Chiefs for meetings at the Pentagon.

But when Mattis and Dunford sang the praises of the “rules-based, international democratic order” that has “kept the peace for 70 years,” Trump simply shook his head in disbelief.

By the end of that year, however, Mattis, Dunford, and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo believed they’d succeeded in getting Trump to use U.S. troops not only to defeat Islamic State but to “stabilize” the entire northeast sector of Syria and balance Russian and Iranian-sponsored forces. Yet they ignored warning signs of Trump’s continuing displeasure with their vision of a more or less permanent American military presence in Syria.

In a March rally in Ohio ostensibly about health care reform, Trump suddenly blurted out, “We’re coming out of Syria, like, very soon. Let the other people take care of it now. Very soon—very soon we’re coming out.”

Then in early April 2018, Trump’s impatience with his advisors on Syria boiled over into a major confrontation at a National Security Council meeting, where he ordered them unequivocally to accept a fundamentally different Syria deployment policy.

Mattis responded that an immediate withdrawal from Syria was impossible to carry out responsibly, would risk the return of Islamic State, and would play into the hands of Russia, Iran, and Turkey, whose interests ran counter to those of the United States.

Trump reportedly then relented and said they have could five or six months to destroy the Islamic State. But he also made it clear that he did not want them to come back to him in October and say that they had been unable to defeat ISIS and had to remain in Syria. When his advisors reiterated that they didn’t think America could withdraw responsibly, Trump told them to “just get it done.”

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I respect Mattis, but his Commander in Chief ran on a platform of getting out of these wars. If he wasn't on board with that, he shouldn't have taken the job.

And Mexico is paying for the wall. Got it.

I agree with 2009 Chuck Schumer...

https://youtu.be/QC4GWhXMNBY

easy to see why Trump supported Pelosi to be speaker of the house after reading this article.

Ortez and a handful of others are intent on going in a different direction with the democratic party and Pelosi / the old guard are creating rules to stop them

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Lib ... 503434.php

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I saw that and I think the whole thing is unfortunate.

I don't believe for a minute that the Trump guy just randomly showed up there. He was antagonizing that guy

At the same time, you can't do that as an employee.

While a business has a right to refuse service to an individual, interjecting your own politics into the business model is a "gots to go" situation and he was fired because of it.

Now if you're the owner, different story. Do whatever the fuck you want. You're the one paying for it in the end.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/here-ar ... ool-spray/

The guy is seriously unfit for office now, assuming he ever was before.

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How many people has Trump said he wants to see locked up? Clearly that kind of talk is red meat to the more rabid sectors of the base. Looks like some dems have taken a page out of Trump's playbook, although I won't be shocked if those same type of Trump supporters take great umbrage at this kind of thing being directed towards him...