The Goat Pen

bluetick wrote:In a 5-4 decision the SCOTUS screwed Al Gore of a FL win that would've made him president. May have made a difference 9/11-wise, definitely would've made a difference wrt insufferably long wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Hanging chads, ballot inconsistencies, roll purges, precinct closings etc.

George W. Bush still would have gotten more votes than Al Gore even if the U.S. Supreme Court hadn't halted the manual recount in Florida, according to a comprehensive analysis of uncounted ballots.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=93642&page=1

A vote-by-vote review of untallied ballots in the 2000 Florida presidential election indicates George W. Bush would have narrowly prevailed in the partial recounts sought by Al Gore, but Gore might have reversed the outcome – by the barest of margins – had he pursued and gained a complete statewide recount.

Al Gore was doomed.

He couldn’t have caught George W. Bush even if his two best chances for an official recount had played out.

George W. Bush would have won a hand recount of all disputed ballots in Florida’s presidential election if the most widely accepted standard for judging votes had been applied.

...Taken as a whole, the recount studies show Bush would have most likely won the Florida statewide hand recount of all undervotes...

https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/31/politics ... index.html

bluetick wrote:In a 5-4 decision the SCOTUS screwed Al Gore of a FL win that would've made him president. May have made a difference 9/11-wise, definitely would've made a difference wrt insufferably long wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Hanging chads, ballot inconsistencies, roll purges, precinct closings etc

Repubs crying foul in FL is a joke.

Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes is now the subject of a lawsuit by the Senate campaign of Gov. Rick Scott. But this is not the first time Snipes has dealt with controversy in her 15-year stint as the county’s elections chief.

In an omen of elections to come, the Sun Sentinel reported that the Broward elections office was still counting ballots days after the 2004 election.

In the 2006 election, after the rest of the state had finished tallying votes, Broward was still counting because of the possibility that some votes had been left in machines at polling places.Also in 2006, one mail-in ballot was sent to Snipes’ office with an Inverted Jenny for a stamp. The stamp, featuring a misprint of an upside down plane, is among the rarest and most valuable in stamp collecting. It turned out to be a fake.

Despite Gov. Rick Scott’s attempt to purge felons from the voter rolls after he was elected in 2010, at least five felons managed to vote in Broward County in 2012. That year, people were still waiting in line to vote past 9 p.m., and some locations ran out of ballots. A week after the election, almost 1,000 uncounted ballots turned up in a warehouse.

Following those long lines, Florida was the 50th state to report election totals in 2012. After at first defending her office’s performance, Snipes eventually agreed to pursue reforms to combat long lines and misplaced ballots. Scott’s is hardly the first lawsuit against Snipes. In 2014, she was sued over confusing ballot layout, which may have again been a problem in this year’s election.

In the August 2016 primary, the Broward Supervisor of Elections office posted election results for early and mail-in voting on its website before polls closed at 7 p.m., a violation of state law. Snipes blamed a third-party vendor.

Tim Canova, an independent candidate for Congress who lost to U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Weston, this year, previously lost to her in a 2016 Democratic primary. He sued to see the ballots from that primary in March 2017, and Snipes ordered the ballots destroyed in September 2017, signing a certification that no court cases centering on the ballots were pending. Under federal law, those ballots were required to be kept 22 months after the election. Instead, Snipes had them destroyed after 12 months, the time they have to be kept following state elections.

Gov. Scott’s Senate campaign sued elections supervisors in Broward and Palm Beach county Thursday night, citing possible “fraud” and “incompetence.” In remarks in front of the governor’s mansion in Tallahassee, Scott seemed aghast that voting in Broward had taken so long — though Snipes’ history will show that vote counting in Broward County has been a days-long affair most of the time.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/polit ... story.html

hedge wrote:"The entire goddamned country can count up their shit in one night! Theres always gonna be wailing and gnashing of teeth"

eCat was wailing and gnashing of teeth when he was trying to work up his shit the other night too...

... somebody turned over Tucker Carlson's trash can (and there's reports of a ring-and-run).

bluetick wrote:RWNJs dealing death and terror from coast to coast but the real news is somebody turned over Tucker Carlson's trash can (and there's reports of a ring-and-run).

hedge wrote:In fairness, aTm soft-peddled the pipe bomb thing as merely a sick practical joke and nobody took him to task over it. As for these antifa punks, I harken back to the words of Bruno, the beloved proprietor of a Haight Street bar (the Persian auf Zam Zam) I used to frequent. He was a WWII vet and well into 70's when I knew him, famous for his short fuse and penchant for unceremoniously throwing people out of the bar. I'm sure he had seen worse on Haight Street in the 1960's, but he was no fan of the homeless potheads that populated the neighborhood even in the 90's (and still today I'm sure). I remember him philosophizing on how he would handle the situation, he said "give me a fire hose and couple of wolverines and I could get this street cleaned up real quick." That would be my approach with many of these antifa punks as well. That said, I think Tucker Carlson is one of the biggest liar and pussy I've ever come across. Doesn't mean he deserves that, but I really don't give a fuck what happens to him, up to and including death. Yes I'd want to see his assassin prosecuted and punished but I wouldn't give a fuck that he was dead...