The Goat Pen

Well, it's going to have to be some assistant then, there's no way Cal, Roy, K, etc., had any direct hand in something like this. Hopefully they made sure everyone on their staffs (staves?) were on the same page. I feel pretty good about Roy's team of assistants not being involved with anything like this...

stupid ass Pitino

good lord, didn't he learn anything from Good Fellas?

Cal is kind of ground zero in the arrangements via proxy with WWW

Guys over at IC are saying Bradley had a meal with an agent which the agent paid for. If that's all it amounted to, I'm not worried, but of course the guys at IC look at everything thru light blue shades...

Saying that the writer of the article was looking for anything to be able to include UNC and Duke in his "report" (evidently something similar happened with the Carter kid at Duke)...

for now thats it,

but that is also only information gleamed from 2 sets of documents out of 4,000

having all those programs give up their star players gives us a clear road to make the final 32

UK releases statement on Yahoo Sports report.....

http://www.lex18.com/story/37576678/uk- ... rts-report

Cal's statement seems a bit parsed.

I haven't been following this closely, and I'm not an expert on crimes so I'm wondering why is the FBI involved in this matter? It's an NCAA violation to pay or loan money to players, not a criminal one, right?

I asked that question to

Apparently its a felony for an agent or intermediary to loan money or pay a student athlete . I'm not sure because they are a minor or what but its a big deal.

sardis wrote:Cal's statement seems a bit parsed.

I haven't been following this closely, and I'm not an expert on crimes so I'm wondering why is the FBI involved in this matter? It's an NCAA violation to pay or loan money to players, not a criminal one, right?

If Cal gets caught up in this, it could affect his Memphis teams. They might have to vacate some wins for seasons while Cal was coaching. Oh, wait...

Tony Bradley's father is saying they didn't meet with any agents until after he had declared for the draft. Said they went to the offices of Miller's agency and they ordered pizza...

Calipari addresses media....

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doesn't exactly fill you with confidence does it

Dennis Smith is going to cause NC State to vacate all of its 10 wins last season. What a shame.

Most of this looks like shit. Unless there are people directly associated with a college that were involved in funneling money to players (and someone getting a free meal is a joke), then the school's shouldn't be implicated. From here, it only seems as though a handful of players really made out.

Here's a good breakdown:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... hes-agents

Now that the FBI has finished doing their yeoman's work following up on multiple warnings on the Florida high school shooter, I am glad they can finally focus all their resources on the REAL threats to our nation lurking within college basketball.

Irregardless, I hope Roy Williams does what former Bama football coach did when NCAA investigators showed up in Mal Moore hall: he threw them out of his office. 'Ceppin' Roy should have some of his players give them wedgies on the way out. Those investigators need to learn who's really in charge.

Sean Miller is about to join Pitino in Hoops Hell...

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... estigation

Oops.

remember when you could get a 5 star kid for $1,000 in an Emory envelope?

Miller will probably get fired, but I bet he and Arizona drag their feet long enough to see how many other coaches get caught in the same trap.

All it takes is one blueblood to say fuck this, we aren't firing our coach and we aren't acknowledging any NCAA punishment - and *everyone* will fall in behind them.

That threat won't be made publicly, but privately to the NCAA and they'll know that if they fight it, they as an organization are over, so instead they'll say they knew this was coming which is why they got Condoleeza Rice to head up a commission and all the conferences are going to have a big get together and come up with a way to protect the athletes and the sanctity of college athletics. They'll come up with some plan- something like allowing players to make money off their likeness , jersey sales, whatever which is open to any athlete but the reality is only a handful will ever see a dime from it - keeping the schools wealthy while giving the athletic programs some opportunity to sell what the school can do to promote the kid.

The Anti k* wrote:Sean Miller is about to join Pitino in Hoops Hell...

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... estigation

for what its worth, UK backed off Ayton. At the time fans couldn't understand why Cal stopped recruiting the kid - he'd asked for a scholarship from us. There is actually a sizeable number of kids that Cal stopped recruiting over the past 5 years. There were also some that we were leading on for months until the last 2 or 3 weeks of their recruitment and they suddenly switched. Bagley was one of them, supposedly Miles Bridges was another. Bamba... its a pretty large list.

I don't believe for a second that another UK players name won't come up in this at some point, but Adabeyo is interesting, because he got paid shoe money, but that money was on behalf of NC State to get Bam to come there - hence the "bad loan" notation.

So you can argue that Bam was an ineligible player but UK - at least at this point in the process - had nothing to do with him getting paid, not even indirectly.