Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[Johnette's Daddy]

So question with the conventions coming up and primary stuff still happening?

If Trump / Sanders / Clinton were to come out and just causally mention who they would like to have as a VP running mate, who would they choose?

Personally I think if Trump were able to find that Republican who hasn't really been mentioned a lot but is not bat shit crazy, would that be able to give his run a legit shot to win? Could Bernie use a boost like this over Hillary now?

It's been years since the bottom of the ticket has mattered in unifying the ticket. In the last 40-50 years, the VPOTUS spot has generally gone to someone who was either a great attack dog or mollified concerned big donors.

[bluetick]

Personally I think if Trump were able to find that Republican who hasn't really been mentioned a lot but is not bat shit crazy, would that be able to give his run a legit shot to win?

Thing is, if the head of the ticket is bat shit crazy, it follows that yer normal dignified person would probably shy away, especially since DJT is dead in the water afa the general election goes. Chris Christie could be an exception since he has no shot of winning anything ever again in NJ, and he's at least articulate and generally not prone to make an incendiary remark every time he opens his pie hole.

[hedge]

Mainly because he's too busy shoving pies into it...

[bluetick]

From everybody's favorite conservative commentator, George Will.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html

Donald Trump's distinctive rhetorical style - think of a drunk with a bullhorn reading aloud James Joyce's "Finnegans Wake" under water - poses an almost insuperable challenge to people whose painful duty is to try to extract clarity from his effusions.

A memorable opening line to as scathing of an indictment of the presumptive GOP nominee as you will ever read. Peace be upon George Will, indeed.

[Professor Tiger]

Mainly because he's too busy shoving pies into it...

Post of the day.

[Professor Tiger]

PS, I'm happy to see Tick finally giving due homage to George Will, peace be upon him.

Will is a political genius who also happens to look exactly like Kermit the Frog.

[Professor Tiger]

Question to JD: I've sometimes questioned why African Americans are so loyal to the Democratic Party while getting so little in return. Obama's SCOTUS nomination is case in point. The only African American Justice on the High Court (Clarence Thomas, peace be upon him too) was put there by a Republican president. The only other African American Justice was put there by Lyndon Johnson - a LOOOONG time ago.

Democrat presidents Carter, Clinton and Obama have had multiple opportunities to nominate another African American, but they never seem to get around to it. And now, Obama nominates yet another white guy. Does that ever bother you and your colleagues?

[Johnette's Daddy]

Question to JD: I've sometimes questioned why African Americans are so loyal to the Democratic Party while getting so little in return. Obama's SCOTUS nomination is case in point. The only African American Justice on the High Court (Clarence Thomas, peace be upon him too) was put there by a Republican president. The only other African American Justice was put there by Lyndon Johnson - a LOOOONG time ago.

Democrat presidents Carter, Clinton and Obama have had multiple opportunities to nominate another African American, but they never seem to get around to it. And now, Obama nominates yet another white guy. Does that ever bother you and your colleagues?

We don't need Blacks on the Supreme Court to have a friendly court to our issues. The true landmark SCOTUS decisions of the Civil Rights era occurred before Marshall joined the court. The stuff after Marshall joined the court was technical application. The stuff prior to was foundational.

WRT to our broader loyalty - look at the stuff the GOP has offered Blacks:

Ending the Civil Rights Act (current)
Ending the Fair Housing Act (current)
Ending Medicare (through the Reagan administration)
Ending Affirmative Action in College/Professional Schools (current)
Ending Affirmative Action Everywhere Else In The Universe (current)
Abolishing the Minimum Wage (current)
Abolishing Overtime Pay (Bush Jr.)
Privatizing Social Security (current)
Privatizing Public Education (current)
Criminalization of Poverty (current)

And a bunch of other crap. The last GOP administration that was remotely positive for Blacks was Teddy Roosevelt's. OK, Ike was reluctantly decent, which is why he was the last GOP candidate to get 40% of the Black vote (Nixon got 32% in 60 and since then it's been ridiculous - Goldwater got 6% in 1964).

Clarence Thomas is on the court, but he's basically against everything that mainstream blacks are for - including the same Affirmative Action programs which allowed him to get into Yale Law School.

Some of the younger rock throwers wanted Obama to nominate someone Black - but that's not important to my generation. We just want Justices who will vote our way.

[hedge]

Heh, Senate repubs vow to not even give a hearing if Obama nominates a SCOTUS candidate, why should he throw a brothah under the bus of that scenario? He picked the correct sacrificial lamb, a jew. Enough of them already on the court. Don't worry, Hillary will have plenty of opportunity to stir some gravy into that bowl of mashed potatoes over the next 8 years, and I'm sure she will...

[Johnette's Daddy]

Heh, Senate repubs vow to not even give a hearing if Obama nominates a SCOTUS candidate, why should he throw a brothah under the bus of that scenario? He picked the correct sacrificial lamb, a jew. Enough of them already on the court. Don't worry, Hillary will have plenty of opportunity to stir some gravy into that bowl of mashed potatoes over the next 8 years, and I'm sure she will...

That's the choice - Garland now or whoever Hils nominates later . . . which could very well be one of these guys:

[Professor Tiger]

Obama loves to use Jews as sacificial lambs.

[hedge]

Following long historical precedent...

[Professor Tiger]

It would be hysterical to see Bill on SCOTUS. He'd be the first "Justice" who lost his license to practice law for lying under oath, which he clearly did. He'll start banging law clerks instead of teenage interns. Maybe he'll use his official gavel as a sex toy instead of cigars. The soles of high heel shoes will protrude from beneath his black robes instead of the Oval Office desk.

[Jungle Rat]

If Hillary wins will she put a new desk in the oval office or keep the one Monica worked under?

[hedge]

"who lost his license to practice law for lying under oath, which he clearly did."

I don't see how that's any different from your lies just b/c nobody gives enough of a fuck about anything you have to say to bother to put you under oath. But of course, nobody is talking about nominating you for the Supreme Court. Or local dog catcher, for that matter. So you have that going for you...

[Professor Tiger]

My assertion that Clinton lost his license to practice for lying under oath is true.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/o ... ancampbell

[hedge]

One down, 10,000 to go...

[10ac]

I wish you were 10,000' down in the Mariana Trench.

[Professor Tiger]

The "I wish you were__________" meme is the new "Hitler in the bunker."

[AlabamAlum]

Correct.