The Goat Pen

Professor Tiger wrote:Forget Trump. You’re missing the main event: Mueller colluded with the Russians! The proof is as plain as the nose on you face!

Our Democracy is in danger!

You're a fucking idiot.

I'm not watching it but I've read comments that the democrats are trying to sabotage the congressional hearing from Strozak right now by making all these points of order and then calling for the meeting adjournment

Papa gets the last laugh though. He has personal naming rights for the stadium until 2040. Pittino Sucks Field.

eCat wrote:I'm not watching it but I've read comments that the democrats are trying to sabotage the congressional hearing from Strozak right now by making all these points of order and then calling for the meeting adjournment

There was some theatrical jostling on both sides for the first 15 minutes or so, but then it settled into what you knew it was going to become: Each side making their own political points and then Strozak getting a few seconds to say something. I'm glad nobody in here is a government employee, if they ever got ahold of some of the things that have been posted in here, your career would be over. Maybe that's why Crow left...

eCat wrote:At first when I read the headline I thought he was stupid and arrogant for thinking he could just throw that out there, then I read the quote and he was saying that back in the day, Colonel Sanders said it and never got any backlash for it. - and as I understand it, this was a role playing phone call where they were walking him thru how to deal with public relations issues. So now we're at a point where if a white man repeats what another man said, even in properly used context of being a reference, its racist.

I am so tired of this horseshit.

Correct. Here is a clip of Senator Robert Byrd, Democrat, then Senate Majority leader, using the N word, completely unprompted. Start at 1:10...

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I guess if the Dem’s had no problem with having a former Grand Wizard of the KKK as their Senate Majority Leader, then they never seemed to have a problem with him also tossing out the N word either. Any hypocrisy there?

There is still time for Papa John to save himself. If he were take make a really big donation to the DNC, then they would absolve him.

yea I'd say that's a different situation

Schattner hasn't done anything remotely close to be associated with a racist organization or has any history of racism

Yet, after having a former Grand Wizard and N word user as their Senate Majority Leader without so much as a whimper, they piously hounded Trent Lott from the same post because he said some nice things about Strom Thurmond at the latter's 100th birthday party. Double standard?

Professor Tiger wrote:Yet, after having a former Grand Wizard and N word user as their Senate Majority Leader without so much as a whimper, they piously hounded Trent Lott from the same post because he said some nice things about Strom Thurmond at the latter's 100th birthday party. Double standard?

Thurmond ran for the presidency in '48 as a segregationist. Lott, too, was an ardent segregationist early on, but he put a lid on that as he climbed the political ranks. The lid came off when Lott said he and his cohorts were proud of Thurmond's stance, supported it, "and if the rest of our country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all of these problems, either." Lott's early views on race were re-examined and his colleagues found him too toxic to remain as House Speaker.

Of course that was then and the bar was a little higher, before Access Hollywood and 'good people' on the White Nationalist side.'

So Lott “kept a lid” on his supposedly seething racism until Thurmond’s birthday party, when the lid came off. And for that, he got fried.

Okay, then Byrd kept his seething racism (which he personally and vigorously participated in for years, by the way), and his seething racist lid popped off when he used the N word in an interview. Why wasn’t Byrd hounded out of office by the Democrats for HIS lid popping? Why did Byrd get so much sympathy from the Democrat white nationalists?

Double standard, as usual.

Along those lines, you could write a whole chapter the racist things Joe Biden has said. Were those instances of his lid popping off? And despite his lid poppings, he could have easily been the Dem nominee if he had wanted to. Why did the Democrat white nationalists keep ignoring Biden’s racial slurs?

I saw where a steel manufacturer is investing $500m in renovating a steel factory that has been sitting idle since 2010 and recalling back several hundred workers.

While this is great news and directly attributed to the tariffs, I can't see how they'd be so invested in the long term benefits to American steel from the initial tariffs they'd make this decision

I guess they believed it was now or never.

Robert Byrd was a KKK member. Scores of dem congressional leaders were raving segregationists. The KKK was started by dems ffs. Double standards abound; life isn't fair. Why ask why? Bud Dry.

Now, Papa John has millions of customers. I doubt anyone here has heard what he said in that corporate message, but the transcripts don't look good. If somebody in his position is gonna say 'nigger', they'd better apologize up front about it's use and give it a huge disclaimer. The more sensible option would be to use the perfectly acceptable "N-word," and you can bet he wishes he had. Pappa John thought incorrectly that quoting somebody else gave him cover. He was wrong about that. That word can't be spoken aloud by the founder of a S&P 400 corporation. He's out. The history of other whites using the term won't bring him back. Bud Dry. Pizza.

bluetick wrote:Robert Byrd was a KKK member. Scores of dem congressional leaders were raving segregationists. The KKK was started by dems ffs. Double standards abound; life isn't fair. Why ask why? Bud Dry.

Now, Papa John has millions of customers. I doubt anyone here has heard what he said in that corporate message, but the transcripts don't look good. If somebody in his position is gonna say 'nigger', they'd better apologize up front about it's use and give it a huge disclaimer. The more sensible option would be to use the perfectly acceptable "N-word," and you can bet he wishes he had. Pappa John thought incorrectly that quoting somebody else gave him cover. He was wrong about that. That word can't be spoken aloud by the founder of a S&P 400 corporation. He's out. The history of other whites using the term won't bring him back. Bud Dry. Pizza.

he was wrong but its sad commentary on Americans today.

that's an interesting article.

when he talked about the twitter shaming, I wondered - what if you don't give a damn about twitter?

I mean, if your boss reads something on twitter about you and you get fired because of it then, yea its a big deal,

but tomorrow, 200,000 people could talk the worst shit possible about me on twitter and unless someone told me about it to my face, I'd never know. More importantly, unless it resulted in my life being upended, yes I would care - 200K is a bunch of people, so clearly whatever I said touched a nerve but I don't think it would compel me to change anything. Its social media. No one my age takes this seriously - or should anyways.

Today just wearing a Make America Great Again hat is justification to get spit on, have people confront you, curse at you, and I wonder if social media is what is driving them to do it - the likes and thumbs of up of being able to go post "today I spit on a guy wearing a MAGA hat" and feel like you did something.

Its a shame but that article also points out that the reality is they really did nothing. None of that is real unless you make it real

That was a great article. Maybe Anikin Skywalker isn’t the only one who came back from the Dark Side.

And congrats to France winning the World Cup. Good for them. They haven’t won anything since Napoleon, so they were overdue.

Last week, President Donald Trump made news when he attacked NATO and European countries on Twitter ahead of and during meetings with those countries. Today, on the day he is meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Trump went to Twitter again and brought up Russia’s interference with the 2016 election.
But unlike with NATO, President Trump didn’t bring up a contentious issue to attack those with whom is meeting, but instead to attack the United States.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
5 hours ago
Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!
15,981 replies 8,782 retweets 32,619 likes
Our fault. Not theirs. Our foolishness. Our stupidity.
The Blame America tweet came shortly after this mess:

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

President Obama thought that Crooked Hillary was going to win the election, so when he was informed by the FBI about Russian Meddling, he said it couldn’t happen, was no big deal, & did NOTHING about it. When I won it became a big deal and the Rigged Witch Hunt headed by Strzok!
10:37 PM - Jul 15, 2018

That one blamed Obama, Hillary, and Strzok for screwing up the investigation into Russian meddling, but was apparently still a little too “blamey” of Russia. The follow-up above made it clear it was America at fault in any bad relationship with the murderous Vladimir Putin and Russia.
Don’t forget that Russia is not our enemy, after all. The EU is. Also the FBI is our foe, President Obama is our foe.

But the problems with Russia? That’s on us, says Trump.


Yeah, people outside the MAGA bubble are upset about stuff like this.

its funny to me that the Russians - who never cast a vote , who didn't hack a voting machine - but somehow had major influence on our election system is something to be up in the air about

meanwhile, one party is actively attempting to have open borders to bring in masses of people from another country, and its not driven by some great humanitarian effort, its driven primarily by they will be lifelong democratic voters - people who actually will influence the election - and those people that are up in the air about the Russians hacking the DNC and exposing -not lies, but the truth - and taking out ads on facebook to the tune of what? $500k in a multi-billion dollar election, don't give two shits about one party actively trying to alter the demographics in this country for the purpose of taking over power.

How many people are crossing the border illegally?

There’s no official measure of how many people succeed in illegally crossing the border, but authorities use the number of apprehensions to gauge changes in illegal immigration. Apprehensions on the Southwest border peaked in 2000 at 1.64 million and have generally declined since, totaling 303,916 in 2017.

Those numbers, which come from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection, are for fiscal years and date back to 1960.

Outside the MAGA bubble (which is roughly the same number of people as are inside the MAGA bubble), people are constantly freaking out about everything Trump says or does. If Trump were to stand at the podium and say, “I told this Putin thug to quit trying to interfere with our elections. But this bold faced liar had the audacity to say he ISN’T trying to interfere with our elections! Can you believe the nerve of this punk? Screw him; I’m leaving.”

If Trump were to say that, the MSM would say, “How DARE that orange baboon say that! Is Trump too stupid to know that Russia has a ton of nuclear weapons, and can get us all killed? And what about our European allies? Putin might get mad and cut off their oil and natural gas.

This was all part of The Conspiracy. Trump’s master just told him to say that to further some secret plot destroy our democracy. IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!

Russian Foreign Ministry 'likes' Trump tweet on American 'stupidity' - AP 1 hr ago

Fox & Friends‘ Brian Kilmeade Scolds Trump For Tweet Blaming U.S. For Poor Relations With Russia - by Aidan McLaughlin | 8:41 am, July 16th, 2018

uh oh