The Goat Pen

him being told an adult male was in the shower with a boy is all the severity he should have needed to know.

odd twist to the case.

The prosecuting attorney went M.I.A. in 2005 http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index. ... ndusk.html

Gricar also said his uncle had developed "a bitter taste in his mouth for the program, and it's coach, and that was not much of a secret."

"So I wouldn't imagine he'd give favorable treatment to anyone associated with the team for any reason," he said.

In that 1998 case, Gricar had the mother of one boy confront Sandusky in her home while police hid in another room.


According to the grand jury report, Sandusky admitted to taking a naked shower and touching the boy, asked for forgiveness and said, "I wish I were dead."

About six weeks after the incident, police closed the case.

I'm guessing Paterno had him knocked off.

Gricar vanished April 15, 2005, after taking a day off work as the Centre County district attorney. His red Mini Cooper was found abandoned in a Lewisburg parking lot, and his county laptop and hard drive were found in the nearby Susquehanna River, too badly damaged to be read. Gricar was 59, and just about eight months away from retirement.

Pennsylvania law allows for missing people to be declared dead after seven years, but a judge can rule to have it happen faster if the family petitions. In this case, Gricar's daughter, Lara, who lives in Washington state and is her father's sole heir, petitioned the court earlier this month.
_720370502052005.jpgView full sizePatriot-NewsLara Gricar

Her attorney said she is seeking closure.

Gricar's case has attracted national attention. He is frequently profiled on television crime shows, and several blogs and websites are dedicated to the mystery.

But despite creative efforts by law enforcement, there haven't been any credible leads since the four-year anniversary, when police revealed that Gricar's home computer had saved searches for "how to wreck a hard drive" and "water damage to a notebook computer."

eCat wrote:him being told an adult male was in the shower with a boy is all the severity he should have needed to know.

Well, that was severe enough for him to go up the chain of command and report the incident...which he understood would lead to an investigation, the engagement of Campus Police and likely local authorities.

I'm saying if he had an idea of this behavior prior to that night the Grad Asst came to his house, then he should have gone up the chain of command (like he did) and press for police involvement (if the chain of command does not). Prior knowledge basically invalidates his Grand Jury testimony that McQueary told him he witnessed "inappropriate behavior" but was not sure the extent of what that consisted of.

I'm saying previous knowledge compounds that flagrancy of Paterno's actions.

yep. I didn't see anything in the grand jury report that showed Paterno knew anything, however there were plenty of people that had their suspicions

supposedly paterno spoke for all of 60 seconds when pressed at this perverts retirement in 1999

so you are up to at least 4 upper echelon pennstate personel who covered for this guy for multiple years in fact rewarded him with emeritus status, parking spot, membership to the gym etc

4 mf's covering this guy on at least 2 occsions

disgusting

"No way he wasn't seen as a risk, even back then. Not another team would touch him with a ten foot pole."

Except for the University of Maryland...He turned it down because he thought he would eventually get the Penn State job.

A woman I knew who's a PSU grad told me about the missing DA thing a few days ago. I have no idea why so many people would be involved in a coverup for something so heinous unless they foolishly thought they were protecting the university. Paterno doesn't seem like the type of guy who would think its OK to cover something up but then who knows what he's really like.

The thing I still don't understand is how McQueary still has a job. He should be charged with a felony like the AD but I guess he's got immunity since he's a witness. But that doesn't mean he should still be employed by PSU unless they're concerned about other things he knows.

looks like the mother of the kid never confronted or reported Sandusky either. I don't get it. is this guy a Svengali or something?

McQueary was just a kid back then and told the person he thought he should. He was probably freaked out too. It does make you wonder though how he joined the staff right after Sandusky "retired".

but the same rules apply to Paterno: he told the person he thought he should and not the police. also, unlike Paterno or anyone else, McQueary actually saw it happen and ran. he could've stopped it all right there but he ran home and called his pappy. Sandusky has been around PSU ever since and McQueary has worked around him and said nothing until now.

Why does he get a pass from PSU?

Because he knows a lot more. Maybe JoePa was in on it too. He does look like he likes young boys.

i don't see how Paterno knows more than the guy who saw it happen.

I was talking about McQueary.

The AD was JoePa's boss in name only. Paterno ran that program and made all the decisions.

I'm not mad at the grad assistant for not calling the police. I'm mad at him for not busting the guy in the head when he witnessed it.

but the same rules apply to Paterno: he told the person he thought he should and not the police.

Thats bullshit, the football coach at Penn State is above the AD no matter what the heirarchy is, especially when that coach is Joe Paterno.

Jungle Rat wrote:McQueary was just a kid back then and told the person he thought he should. He was probably freaked out too. It does make you wonder though how he joined the staff right after Sandusky "retired".

He was 28. Old enough, not a kid. On the other hand, he was essentially an employee of both Paterno and Sandusky and that carries weight.

aTm wrote:

but the same rules apply to Paterno: he told the person he thought he should and not the police.

Thats bullshit, the football coach at Penn State is above the AD no matter what the heirarchy is, especially when that coach is Joe Paterno.

No he's not when it comes to personnel decisions. There's a line of command that can be talked around but you can't just say Paterno was the boss because he's JoePa. As you say, it sounds good but it's just not true.

Brothers?....