Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:53 pm
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You can't even read your own chart. Immediately? Looks like % of GDP stayed in the 30's under Bush until the fiscal year ending 2008....hmmmm, I wonder why the Bush tax cuts didn't blow up the deficit until then? What was the difference in 2007 legislature that could effect the deficit? I wonder why Clinton's deficit didn't get into the 30's until the second half of his presidency instead of the first half? It's an easy answer, tick.bluetick wrote:your graph is a couple of years outdated
but then turns back upward immediately with Bush II? .
Dr. Strangelove wrote:Nearly every conservative on PNN favors restricting voting rights in one way or another, Mook. Some want you to be forced to pass a civics test before you're allowed to vote. Others want to see property or wealth requirements brought back. Or at the very least, if you receive govt assistance in any way, you can't be permitted to vote. The age limit needs to be raised because kids under 30 are dumb and too "anything goes". Whatever it takes to get the voting ranks back to middle and upper class white men deciding for the rest of society what's best. Cue the "we're a Republic, not a democracy"
But why just a driver's license as an id? Why not a school ID for example?And of course DSL left out the one thing people do want which is showing ID to prove who you are before voting.
-+-Owlman wrote:But why just a driver's license as an id? Why not a school ID for example?And of course DSL left out the one thing people do want which is showing ID to prove who you are before voting.
When the Obama administration releases a report on the Friday before a long weekend, it’s clearly not trying to draw attention to the report’s contents. Sure enough, the “Seventh Quarterly Report” on the economic impact of the “stimulus,” released on Friday, July 1, provides further evidence that President Obama’s economic “stimulus” did very little, if anything, to stimulate the economy, and a whole lot to stimulate the debt.
The report was written by the White House’s Council of Economic Advisors, a group of three economists who were all handpicked by Obama, and it chronicles the alleged success of the “stimulus” in adding or saving jobs. The council reports that, using “mainstream estimates of economic multipliers for the effects of fiscal stimulus” (which it describes as a “natural way to estimate the effects of” the legislation), the “stimulus” has added or saved just under 2.4 million jobs — whether private or public — at a cost (to date) of $666 billion. That’s a cost to taxpayers of $278,000 per job.
Again, this is the verdict of Obama’s own Council of Economic Advisors, which is about as much of a home-field ruling as anyone could ever ask for. In truth, it’s quite possible that by borrowing an amount greater than the regular defense budget or the annual cost of Medicare, and then spending it mostly on Democratic constituencies rather than in a manner genuinely designed to stimulate the economy, Obama’s “stimulus” has actually undermined the economy’s recovery — while leaving us (thus far) $666 billion deeper in debt.
Only in a sociology class.Professor Tiger wrote:Requiring a voter to present a valid ID to prove they are who they say they are, and that they are attempting to vote precisely once, and in the designated precinct, is the equivalent of slavery.
Your registration has already qualified whether you are eligible to vote. You don't need an id for that. Any id that shows you are the person registered should be enough. You don't need DOB or anything with your residence on it. If you aren't a resident or if you aren't old enough, you will not be registered.GBJs wrote: If your school ID has your picture, DOB, and current address which matches your voters registration card, I'm all for it.
An ACORN ID should suffice.Therefore, any official ID showing your picture and name should be enough.
Not really, it's too easy to obtain a fradulent voter registration, or keep an old one and vote 2-3 times etc. Nobody took up my old registrations so if I had desired I could have voted 3 times in the last election by traveling to all those old places and voting.Owlman wrote:Your registration has already qualified whether you are eligible to vote. You don't need an id for that. Any id that shows you are the person registered should be enough. You don't need DOB or anything with your residence on it. If you aren't a resident or if you aren't old enough, you will not be registered.GBJs wrote: If your school ID has your picture, DOB, and current address which matches your voters registration card, I'm all for it.
Therefore, any official ID showing your picture and name should be enough.