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and her presidential run just hit its first crisis

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Trump really did not want to win the election so he conspired with the Russians to win the election.

He wanted to win the election. He had, and continues to have, no interest in doing the job.

"Sex as portrayed in porn is as close to real sex as impeachment of Trump is to a real impeachment. It’s the difference between imagining something you desperately wish would happen to you and what really happens to you."

Speak for yourself...

sardis wrote:Trump really did not want to win the election so he conspired with the Russians to win the election.

^Post of the week.

Keanu Reeves - I ain't getting no damn lawsuit

sardis wrote:Trump really did not want to win the election so he conspired with the Russians to win the election.

It's likely Trump didn't want to conspire with the Russians, in his defense.

If that had been two guys, I doubt his hands would've been visible...

Speaking of Keanu, I watched John Wick 2 (I think it was John, it was definitely Wick) this past weekend. Can't see I've ever seen a worse James Bond/super assassin type of movie than that. Barely any plot that I could detect, it was much closer to a video game than a movie...

bluetick wrote:

sardis wrote:Trump really did not want to win the election so he conspired with the Russians to win the election.

It's likely Trump didn't want to conspire with the Russians, in his defense.

The Russians turned trump into one of their agents without him even knowing it. I'm sure he knows all too well now but it's reasonable to wonder how much agency he had in this.

bluetick wrote:

sardis wrote:Trump really did not want to win the election so he conspired with the Russians to win the election.

It's likely Trump didn't want to conspire with the Russians, in his defense.

There's a precedent: Comey let Hillary off the hook because she didn't intend to commit all those felonies she commited.

With a tip of the hat to eCat, here's the latest and probably the last Cliven Bundy update:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ju ... li=BBnb7Kz

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Here it is. Mark this day and this post in your diaries for future generations. Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the first crack in the Trump-Russian Collusion Dam:

Cletus wrote:The Russians turned trump into one of their agents without him even knowing it. I'm sure he knows all too well now but it's reasonable to wonder how much agency he had in this.

For the past year, all we've heard is how Trump secretly colluded with the Russians to steal the election. Now Cletus, to his credit, is finally coming to grips with the reality that there was never any Trump-Russian collusion. The cold drill bit of reality is burrowing past the multiple layers of Trump Derangement Syndrome. He's not there yet, but you can tell he's starting to feel it.

We are now supposed to believe that Trump colluded with Russia, but he did not KNOW that he was colluding with Russia. He also colluded with Russia, but he just had no "agency" in colluding with Russia. I'll just let that sink in all by itself.

The crack in the Trump-Russia collusion dam is starting to leak. The drip is already becoming a trickle. It will soon become a stream, then a flood, then the whole structure will fail. The inevitable process has already started.

2018 is going to be fantastic.

He knew the Russians were there to lend him a hand. And, many people who were acting as his agent both knew that the Russians could be helpful and they also knew why they wanted to help. That trump was so stupid that he didn't realize he had become a KGB agent and was being manipulated does not excuse him from any of the crimes he committed.

What will excuse him of the accusation of colluding with the Russians is the complete absence of any empirical evidence that he colluded with the Russians.

Meanwhile, there IS a development in that REAL piece of empirical evidence that proves the REAL candidate that REALLY did collude with the Russians. The Pee Pee dossier and all related documents just got handed over to congress, and has apparently claimed its first deep state victim for the second time.

Remember Bruce Ohr? He was a member of Mueller's team. As such, he was supposed to be investigating whether Trump colluded with the Russians. Instead, it was discovered that he had an undisclosed meeting with Christopher Steele and another with Fusion GPS exec's. Nothing says "fair and impartial" like an investigator having secret meetings with two of the major players in an ongoing investigation. His wife worked for Fusion GPS too. No conflict of interest there...

When that meeting was discovered, he lost his seat in the clown car. Now, he just lost his other job as Director of Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Forces (OCDETF).

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/08/doj-o ... evel-post/

I wonder what just caused that. He'll testify before congress next week, so maybe we'll find out.

If you were a normal person, I'd be baffled by your confidence that there is no evidence. First, that is just not something that someone like you could possibly know. Then, when you add in the dozens of illegally undisclosed meetings, the indictments, the people who have flipped to work with the FBI, and trumps attempt (probably illegal) to shutdown this investigation, then the idea that there is nothing there is completely nonsensical. But, you aren't a normal person. You are the worst combo of really confident and ignorant.

You could leave off the confident part...

Looks like those coal jobs might not be coming back after all.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/08/investi ... index.html

Cletus wrote:He knew the Russians were there to lend him a hand. And, many people who were acting as his agent both knew that the Russians could be helpful and they also knew why they wanted to help. That trump was so stupid that he didn't realize he had become a KGB agent and was being manipulated does not excuse him from any of the crimes he committed.

I wish I could do that...