Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[Professor Tiger]

Probably true. Anybody who's okay with partial birth abortion already has no moral compass to appeal to.

[Toemeesleather]

on their best days, they care about middle-class people, the poor, the sick, and the hungry.

Should have included fetuses.

[Jungle Rat]

Probably true. Anybody who's okay with partial birth abortion already has no moral compass to appeal to.

Hello

[Toemeesleather]

[Professor Tiger]

on their best days, they care about middle-class people, the poor, the sick, and the hungry.

Should have included fetuses.

I did:

So your issue with "liberalism" is based on management, not core principles?

I am sympathetic to liberals when they try to help the poor, the sick and the hungry. But they do all kinds of things that go go way beyond those things which I strongly disagree with. That list would include environmental wacko-ism, like what they did in California, which CREATES poor, sick and hungry people in order to save a 2 inch fish. Another would be an staggering naivete negotiating with extremely evil people like the Iranians. A redux of Neville Chamberlain does NOT help the poor, the sick and the hungry. Another is abortion, where liberals who supposedly love the weak and the helpless and innocent have no problem with killing the MOST weak and helpless and innocent - babies.

[Toemeesleather]

Never mind.

[Professor Tiger]

You mean the same Gipper who ILLEGALLY TRADED WEAPONS TO IRAN???

AT THIS POINT WHAT DOES IT MATTER?????

[Jungle Rat]

Heh. I get it. Let's just ignore history.

[bluetick]

Donald Trump revealed today that his net worth is ten billion dollars. And now he leads the GOP field at 17%.

Goody.

[innocentbystander]

What bothers me is that this same BS creeps up every few years.

“A well funded group established for the purpose of damaging Planned Parenthood’s mission and services has promoted a heavily edited, secretly recorded videotape that falsely portrays Planned Parenthood’s participation in tissue donation programs that support lifesaving scientific research. Similar false accusations have been put forth by opponents of abortion services for decades. These groups have been widely discredited and their claims fall apart on closer examination, just as they do in this case.”
Fetal tissue donation is heavily regulated by the Department of Health and Human Services’ Office for Human Research Protections, and it is one hundred percent legal. It requires informed consent from the woman donating the tissue, and neither she nor the donating organization may be paid, apart from what the HHS calls “reasonable payments associated with the transportation, implantation, processing, preservation, quality control, or storage of human fetal tissue.”

http://jezebel.com/planned-parenthood-r ... 1717809655

Thank you, Dr. Mengele. So it's got a beating heart, brains with measurable brain waves. lungs, a liver, and all those human organs up for sale, but it is not a human if that is inconvenient to somebody else?

Funny. That's exactly what slave owners used to say about slaves. They point at creatures with human brains, human hearts, human livers, human (black) skin and say, "that's not a human being. I can enslave them if I want to because it is convenient to me. You have no right to police my slave cabins. Slavery is a matter of my right to privacy. It is left up to me and my overseers."

Both are pure evil.

Tiger, please stop trying to shame our Prophet. JD gets direct revelation from God. You'd do yourself some good if you just listen to the Prophet instead of trying to make him feel bad. His is an enormous burden. I mean can you imagine how hard it is to be the one who God talks directly to and then learns about how His rules change in our living Bible?

[hedge]

I wish someone had aborted that "living" bible...

[bluetick]

How's things going with your men's liberation gang, IB? Have they made you Grand Wizard or whatever yet?

[Professor Tiger]

Donald Trump revealed today that his net worth is ten billion dollars. And now he leads the GOP field at 17%.

Goody.

He is a man of the people, just like Hillary. They both care deeply about the economic struggles of average people.

[Toemeesleather]

WASHINGTON (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton's standing is falling among Democrats, and voters view her as less decisive and inspiring than when she launched her presidential campaign just three months ago, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll.

The survey offers a series of warning signs for the leading Democratic candidate. Most troubling, perhaps, for her prospects are questions about her compassion for average Americans, a quality that fueled President Barack Obama's two White House victories.

Just 39 percent of all Americans have a favorable view of Clinton, compared to nearly half who say they have a negative opinion of her. That's an eight-point increase in her unfavorable rating from an AP-GfK poll conducted at the end of April.

The drop in Clinton's numbers extends into the Democratic Party. Seven in 10 Democrats gave Clinton positive marks, an 11-point drop from the April survey. Nearly a quarter of Democrats now say they see Clinton in an unfavorable light.

"I used to like her, but I don't trust her," said Donald Walters of Louisville, Kentucky. "Ever since she's announced her candidacy for the presidency I just haven't liked the way she's handled things. She doesn't answer questions directly."


Makes sense why her handlers are keeping the press/public at arms length....the more she talks, the more she sinks in the polls. Very much uninspiring.

[innocentbystander]

How's things going with your men's liberation gang, IB? Have they made you Grand Wizard or whatever yet?

Heh. The MRM is entirely..... decentralized. There is absolutely no organization, to it. If we became... centralized and organized... then feminist groups would try to sue us. We place a target on our backs, gives our collective enemy an enemy. So, no.

Once you take the red pill, everything in life becomes much clearer tick. Try millions and millions of people making tiny individual decisions based on nothing more than incentives and disincentives. But thanks for your concern.

[innocentbystander]

Donald Trump revealed today that his net worth is ten billion dollars. And now he leads the GOP field at 17%.

Goody.

He is a man of the people, just like Hillary. They both care deeply about the economic struggles of average people.

Something tells me a Tiger is endorsing a Scott Walker.

[hedge]

"The MRM is entirely..... decentralized. There is absolutely no organization, to it."

Shocking...

[Professor Tiger]

Donald Trump revealed today that his net worth is ten billion dollars. And now he leads the GOP field at 17%.

Goody.

He is a man of the people, just like Hillary. They both care deeply about the economic struggles of average people.

Something tells me a Tiger is endorsing a Scott Walker.

My first choice is Rand Paul. But I could easily vote for Walker or Rubio. I could vote for Jeb if I get drunk first.

[Professor Tiger]

Exhibit #1 why this Iran nuke deal is a calamity:

Nuclear Deal Silent on Iran’s Parchin Military Plant, Bushehr

The Iranian nuclear deal reached in Vienna contains no reference to the Parchin military facility where most of Iran’s past nuclear arms-related work was carried out.

Additionally, the draft agreement made public on Tuesday contains no stated limits on Iran’s Russian-made Bushehr nuclear power facility that analysts say could produce plutonium for dozens of bombs.

On the nuclear power-generating Bushehr reactor, Henry Sokolski, director of the Nonproliferation Policy Education Center, said that leaving it out of the accord was a mistake.

“That reactor can produce enough plutonium for dozens of bombs per year,” he said. “Iran could remove the fuel from the reactor and use a small, cheap reprocessing plant to extract plutonium, and get its first bombs in a matter of weeks.”

The specific omission of Parchin is likely to be one main focus of congressional efforts to examine the agreement.

Iran, during the past 20 months of nuclear talks, refused to permit inspections of any military facilities and won that concession in the final accord announced Tuesday.

Parchin is a large military complex located about 19 miles southeast of the Iranian capital of Tehran.

Details of nuclear weapons work carried out by the Iranians at Parchin were revealed in IAEA reports since 2011. A November 2011 report said non-nuclear high-explosive tests were conducted at a Parchin facility that simulated the blast used to create a nuclear detonation.

The agency report said there had been “strong indicators of possible weapon development.” The suspicious activity included “modeling of spherical geometries, consisting of components of the core of a [high enriched uranium] nuclear device subjected to shock compression, for their neutronic behavior at high density, and a determination of the subsequent nuclear explosive yield.”

In 2012, the IAEA reported that Iran had constructed a large explosives containment vessel for “hydrodynamic experiments.” Those experiments are used in testing conventional explosives that create pressure on fissile material to initiate a nuclear blast.

As recently as February, another IAEA report outlined suspicious nuclear activity at Parchin, including vehicles, equipment, and construction materials at the site.

Iran has refused IAEA requests to inspect the site since 2012, when Tehran was first questioned about the facility. Satellite photographs after 2012 revealed that some areas were destroyed in an apparent bid to cover up the nuclear arms-related work.

A classified State Department cable dated Sept. 2, 2008 stated that China exported an industrial centrifuge to a company known as the Sara Company.

“Our information indicates that the Sara Company is associated with the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) and has procured items from other Chinese firms in the past on behalf of Iran’s Defense Industries Organization (DIO) and for the DIO subsidiary Parchin Chemicals Industries (PCI),” the cable, made public by Wikileaks, states.

Marie Harf, spokeswoman for the State Department, told reporters April 3 when asked whether Parchin would be inspected under the nuclear deal: “Well, we would find it, I think, very difficult to imagine a JCPA that did not require such access at Parchin.”

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... t-bushehr/

Obama's speech yesterday sounded a lot like this:

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[Professor Tiger]

The last time a naif president signed a bad nuclear deal with a nutcase state in 1994, assuring us that said deal would prevent said nutcase state from getting a bomb:

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This happened:

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