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Post by Professor Tiger » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:06 pm

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Post by Professor Tiger » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:07 pm

hedge wrote:"Liberals relish the thought of kicking Christian ass."

You've let your vanity run wild. Just b/c certain people want to kick your ass is no reason for you to infer that they want to kick "christian" ass in general...

That's been tried before, more than once, but without the desired result.
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"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity."
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Post by bluetick » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:46 am

A thoughtful analysis that could change some minds. Admittedly there are issues here that I never considered.

How Same-Sex Marriage Could Ruin Civilization - The Guardian
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Good article. May have to rethink my position on same-sex marriage.
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Post by bluetick » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:38 pm

My monthly premium with BCBS was 525/mo pre-ACA. Under the ACA, it's currently 337.50/mo. BCBSTN is asking for a 36% increase and it's likely they'll get 20. So my premium will go to 400/mo. I'm still better off.

My oldest son's premium increased from 120 to 158/mo under the ACA. The latest filing will put him at around 190/mo. He can afford it; other late-20s friends of his get subsidies that greatly reduce how much they have to fork out.

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Post by sardis » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:12 am

Well, our company had to leave BCBS last year because they jacked up the premium 40% from pre-ACA so you are an exception or you changed your plan.

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sardis wrote:Success!


Pls use official terminology in the future comrade.


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Post by Toemeesleather » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:45 am

Dr. Ivar Giaever, a Nobel Prize-Winner for physics in 1973, declared his dissent on man-made global warming claims at a Nobel forum on July 1, 2015.

“I would say that basically global warming is a non-problem,” Dr. Giaever announced during his speech titled “Global Warming Revisited.”

Giaever, a former professor at the School of Engineering and School of Science Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, received the 1973 physics Nobel for his work on quantum tunneling. Giaever delivered his remarks at the 65th Nobel Laureate Conference in Lindau, Germany, which drew 65 recipients of the prize. Giaever is also featured in the new documentary “Climate Hustle”, set for release in Fall 2015.

Giaever was one of President Obama’s key scientific supporters in 2008 when he joined over 70 Nobel Science Laureates in endorsing Obama in an October 29, 2008 open letter. Giaever signed his name to the letter which read in part: “The country urgently needs a visionary leader…We are convinced that Senator Barack Obama is such a leader, and we urge you to join us in supporting him.”

But seven years after signing the letter, Giaever now mocks President Obama for warning that “no challenge poses a greater threat to future generations than climate change”. Giaever called it a “ridiculous statement.”

“That is what he said. That is a ridiculous statement,” Giaever explained.

“I say this to Obama: Excuse me, Mr. President, but you’re wrong. Dead wrong,” Giaever said.

“How can he say that? I think Obama is a clever person, but he gets bad advice. Global warming is all wet,” he added.

“Obama said last year that 2014 is hottest year ever. But it’s not true. It’s not the hottest,” Giaever noted.

The Nobel physicist questioned the basis for rising carbon dioxide fears.

“When you have a theory and the theory does not agree with the experiment then you have to cut out the theory. You were wrong with the theory,” Giaever explained.

Global Warming ‘a new religion’

Giaever said his climate research was eye opening. “I was horrified by what I found” after researching the issue in 2012, he noted.

“Global warming really has become a new religion. Because you cannot discuss it. It’s not proper. It is like the Catholic Church.”

“The other thing that amazes me is that when you talk about climate change it is always going to be the worst. It’s got to be better someplace for heaven’s sake. It can’t always be to the worse,” he said.

“Then comes the clincher. If climate change does not scare people we can scare people talking about the extreme weather,” Giaever said.

“For the last hundred years, the ocean has risen 20 cm — but for the previous hundred years the ocean also has risen 20 cm and for the last 300 years, the ocean has also risen 20 cm per 100 years. So there is no unusual rise in sea level. And to be sure you understand that I will repeat it. There is no unusual rise in sea level,” Giaever said.

“If anything we have entered period of low hurricanes. These are the facts,” he continued.

“You don’t’ have to even be a scientist to look at these figures and you understand what it says,” he added.
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Post by hedge » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:51 am

“Global warming really has become a new religion. Because you cannot discuss it. It’s not proper. It is like the Catholic Church.”

I'm sure Prof appreciated that...
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Post by Professor Tiger » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:17 am

I'm not Catholic.

The faith-based religious nature of the AGW religion is becoming more and more obvious. That guy may be stripped of his Nobel Peace prize and threatened with the Iron Maiden for his heresy. The AGW Office of Inquisition will get all Galileo on him.
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Post by hedge » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:47 am

"I'm not Catholic."

Well, whatever you are, the point remains. You don't like competition when it comes to dogma...
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Post by Johnette's Daddy » Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:08 pm

Federal, Indiana authorities raid home of Subway spokesman Jared Fogle, remove electronics

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"Subway said in a statement that it was "very concerned" about the raid, which it believes "is related to a prior investigation" of a former employee of the Jared Foundation, an organization founded by Fogle to raise awareness about childhood obesity. Subway did not immediately say whether that employee was former foundation executive director Russell Taylor, who was arrested in May on child pornography charges."

There were rumors that Jared supported himself in college by trafficking porn . . .
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Post by Professor Tiger » Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:37 pm

hedge wrote:"I'm not Catholic."

Well, whatever you are, the point remains. You don't like competition when it comes to dogma...
There is no religion more intolerant of competition in dogma than the Man-Made Global Warming one. That Nobel Prize winning heretic will be sent to a reeducation camp until he gets his mind right.
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Post by hedge » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:16 pm

"There is no religion more intolerant of competition in dogma than the Man-Made Global Warming one."

You are one fucked up dude...
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Post by Johnette's Daddy » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:52 am

10ac wrote:http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/07/06/ ... l-warming/

More from Dr. Ivar Giaever.
Giaever is (yet another) bitter old man who was discredited years ago.

Ivar Giaever - Nobel Winning Physicist and Climate Pseudoscientist

http://www.skepticalscience.com/ivar-gi ... ntist.html

"We often see scientists from non-climate fields who believe they have sufficient expertise to understand climate science despite having done minimal research on the subject; William Happer, Fritz Vahrenholt, and Bob Carter, for example. As he admits in his own words, Nobel Prize winning physicist Ivar Giaever fits this mould perfectly:

"I am not really terribly interested in global warming. Like most physicists I don't think much about it. But in 2008 I was in a panel here about global warming and I had to learn something about it. And I spent a day or so - half a day maybe on Google, and I was horrified by what I learned. And I'm going to try to explain to you why that was the case."

That quote comes from a presentation Giaever gave to the 62nd Meeting of Nobel Laureates in 2012, for some unknown reason on the subject of climate change. As Giaever notes at the beginning of his talk, he has become more famous for his contrarian views on global warming than for his Nobel Prize, which have made him something of a darling to the climate contrarian movement and climate denial enablers."


The article -which is several years old - goes on to slap down all of Giaever's positions.
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Post by Professor Tiger » Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:24 am

He's a HERETIC! Burn him at the stake before he turns you into a newt!
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Post by hedge » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:30 am

"We often see scientists from non-climate fields who believe they have sufficient expertise to understand climate science despite having done minimal research on the subject"

To say nothing of internet pseudo-geniuses who don't know jackshit about any field of science but yet never tire of mewling and caterwauling like a little pussy about how any claims of man-made climate change has no basis in science and is really nothing more than a new religion. I think we've all seen "that guy" somewhere on the internet. Maybe even in here....
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