The Goat Pen

AlabamAlum wrote:History: As noted, gay unions have existed throughout many civilizations going back thousands of years.

no they don't

anal sex existed. gay unions have not

Nicely done, AA!

To paraphrase Dr. Ian Malcolm: "The lack of humility before nature that's being displayed here is staggering."

Dora wrote:Nicely done, AA!

yes it would have been even nicer if he was historically accurate

Hacksaw wrote:To paraphrase Dr. Ian Malcolm: "The lack of humility before nature that's being displayed here is staggering."

Doing things simply because it sounds nice is not good enough of a reason to alter law. But when you have a certain segment of society patting themselves on the back for reforming law (the way that has happened recently in New York) simply in a vain attempt to make someone else "whole" at the expense of "the other", then the reformers are often blind to the damage that they may have wrought.

My No Fault Divorce example fell on deaf ears and blind eyes. And that is a shame.

YOU ARE A SHAME!!!

innocentbystander wrote:

AlabamAlum wrote:History: As noted, gay unions have existed throughout many civilizations going back thousands of years.

no they don't

anal sex existed. gay unions have not

Now you are just being obtuse. I am sure in all the history of man, there have been many corporations, tribes, inventions, and such done with 2 men or 2 women that had to secertly hide their love for each other because it wasn't norm or allowed to have a union recognized by the state.

Don't be that guy.

As far as your rant about welfare and such, well picture this. What if there were all of sudden a HUGE number of "married" people that had good jobs, educated, and well adjusted people? What if these "married" people, were able to adopt or take these childern out of the "system" so that they might have a better chance to have an education and grow up with some sense and decency? Wouldn't that make more of a difference for everyone in the long run? You can break the cycle that some of these people go through for years????

Trust me when I say this. Gays not being allowed to marry will not save our empire. We have BIGGER issues than that.

Jungle Rat wrote:YOU ARE A SHAME!!!

i can smell your pee

That's because I peed in your shoes

BigRedMan wrote:Now you are just being obtuse. I am sure in all the history of man, there have been many corporations, tribes, inventions, and such done with 2 men or 2 women that had to secertly hide their love for each other because it wasn't norm or allowed to have a union recognized by the state.

Don't be that guy.

the love one man might think he shares with another, doesn't make their union one flesh.

BigRedMan wrote:As far as your rant about welfare and such, well picture this. What if there were all of sudden a HUGE number of "married" people that had good jobs, educated, and well adjusted people?

I'd argue that if you have same-sex-attraction, that you are probably not well adjusted. If a 45 year old educated man with a good job, can ONLY get an erection by seeing a naked body of a 12 year old girl (someone he wants the right to marry) does that make him well adjusted? Because there are some people that see same-sex-attraction as deviant as child-attraction.

innocentbystander wrote:

AlabamAlum wrote:History: As noted, gay unions have existed throughout many civilizations going back thousands of years.

no they don't

anal sex existed. gay unions have not

Have you retracted the last statement you made where I proved you wrong?

Jungle Rat wrote:

we don't have sugar cereals in our house, rat

the love one man might think he shares with another, doesn't make their union one flesh.

You have to be shitting me????? You question how people feel about whom they love?

No further comment.

I'd argue that if you have same-sex-attraction, that you are probably not well adjusted.

Says you. Others with degrees and research and such say otherwise.

a 45 year old educated man with a good job, can ONLY get an erection by seeing a naked body of a 12 year old girl (someone he wants the right to marry) does that make him well adjusted?

Different scenairo all together. Not even the same argument jackass. 2 consenting adults as stated by law 18 yrs and older, should be allowed to make their own decisions.

Because there are some people that see same-sex-attraction as deviant as child-attraction.

Those people are right-wing christian bible thumping jackasses that dont' know the difference between ass and a hole in the ground.

Apparently you fit in well with them.

I like the "one flesh" thing. Heh. Brings a magical, metaphysical property to the discussion (and as a result, unprovable).

AlabamAlum wrote:I like the "one flesh" thing.

no you don't. you think this whole thing is a joke.

innocentbystander wrote:

AlabamAlum wrote:I like the "one flesh" thing.

no you don't. you think this whole thing is a joke.

Not exactly a 'joke' - but what I like is your use of 'one flesh' to prove that 'gay unions' have not happened.

innocentbystander wrote:

AlabamAlum wrote:I like the "one flesh" thing.

no you don't. you think this whole thing is a joke.

I do! I think you are fucking clownshoes.

Homos suck.

TheBigMook wrote:I do! I think you are fucking clownshoes.

clownshoes? interesting word there....

Perhaps I know you from another forum?