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sardis wrote:Poor desperate hurricane survivors raiding a Foot Locker to get basic provisions to survive...

https://www.local10.com/weather/hurrica ... 4300005617

"Black Feet Matter"

Too bad Jonkey wasn't still around to share Hedge's disappointment that a Cat 5 hurricane didn't level another American city.

I'm not disappointed, I'm glad, as is everyone. I was just commenting on how the media build it up to be a sure thing that something is going to get wiped out (in this case, the entire state of Florida), when the reality is you never know, and more often than not, there is some amount of wind and water damage, but nothing approaching the levels of utter devastation they seem to be predicting every time. For some reason it's slightly annoying to me that the national media jumps on these things and tries to act like the experts in telling people who live in areas that regularly experience these hurricanes what they need to be doing, when most of those people have lived thru numerous such storms over the years and know exactly what to do. That seemed to be Texas's attitude to Harvey, and that was actually a truly devastating one...

There are no ratings and ad sales bonanzas to be had if the media says, "It's not going to be a big deal."

Ratings, yes, but ad sales bonanzas? Are you saying the Weather Channel sales team is trying to land sponsorships for their hurricane package?

While I believe "the media" gets criticized far too much and most of that criticism is based on ignorance of facts, I will say that the so-called national media, for the most part is a farce. If you want real news, find a local outlet near the source and leave the windbags behind

I get it, but I think the thing that set me off was that item I mentioned about the local reporter in Miami, her voice still quivering with panic, saying "Just b/c the sun is out and it's not raining doesn't mean it's safe!!" Goddamn, it's a sunny day in Miami and she just talked to a guy who was about to go surfing (much to her chagrin, if not outrage). How long do they want people to stay cowering in their homes? Until they (the media) tell them, oh so cautiously and a bit reluctantly, and with numerous conditions, that it's OK to go out now. I know I'm reading more into it than was probably there, but it still irked me...

hedge wrote:I get it, but I think the thing that set me off was that item I mentioned about the local reporter in Miami, her voice still quivering with panic, saying "Just b/c the sun is out and it's not raining doesn't mean it's safe!!" Goddamn, it's a sunny day in Miami and she just talked to a guy who was about to go surfing (much to her chagrin, if not outrage). How long do they want people to stay cowering in their homes? Until they (the media) tell them, oh so cautiously and a bit reluctantly, and with numerous conditions, that it's OK to go out now. I know I'm reading more into it than was probably there, but it still irked me...

My favorite example of that is this:

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Saint wrote:Ratings, yes, but ad sales bonanzas? Are you saying the Weather Channel sales team is trying to land sponsorships for their hurricane package?

"ad sales bonanza" = showing potential ad buyers next quarter the large number viewers you had in the previous quarter (e.g. with Harvey and Irma) and therefore charging and getting a lot more ad sales revenue and therefore making a lot more profit for your network.

I suspect ad buyers are a little more sophisticated than you.

Cletus, have you noticed that the National Weather Service, NOAA, and the entire governmental apparatus of the best and brightest weather forecasters in the world, using the most advanced computer modeling, radar, satellites, and hurricane hunter aircraft known to man, could not accurately predict the movements of a hurricane right in front of them?

Then why in the world should ANYBODY take seriously their hysterical predictions of the weather conditions of an entire planet 10 years from now?

You AGW catastrophists are a bunch of gullible simpleton illogical rubes...

Nobody is trying to predict weather 10 years in advance.

LMAO! That's ALL the AGW religion is.

Look at your AGW pope, Al Gore and the predictions of his movie from 10 years ago. From category 6 hurricanes to no polar ice cap, that were supposed to exist by now, his predictions of macro-global weather turned out to be a huge embarrassment to the members of his religious cult.

Words have meaning and you clearly don't understand what any of these words in the global warming issue mean. Nobody is predicting weather 10 years out. I suppose some may speculate on the possible outcomes of the warmer climate in 10 years but that's not the same as predicting weather.

Here are words that have meaning, and which I hope you can understand, despite your faith-based climate dogma:

If the supposed scientific prophets and high priests of the NWS, NOAA, and the other factions of the college of cardinals of AGW, with all their deep technological magic, couldn't accurately predict the movements of a hurricane real time in the present, then that same group of magicians simply cannot be trusted with any degree certainty how hot the earth will be at any point in the future.

But it's not the same science, not the same techniques, and probably not even the same people. There is no relationship between the two.

Of course, of course... there are two different sciences out there.

"Weather" science is imperfect and makes mistakes sometimes.

But "Climate" science is perfect, holy, inerrant, and CANNOT, and NEVER will, make mistakes. That would be blasphemy.

The "AGW pope" is actually now the same person as the actual Pope.

Hurricanes are always hard to predict in terms of course, duration and intensity. Comparing that to something that's as plain as the nose on your face is apples and oranges. The seas are rising, by god, and ye best head to higher groooooooouuuunnnnd!

Climate change is the Night King and those hurricanes are undead dragons.

aTm wrote:The "AGW pope" is actually now the same person as the actual Pope.

Heh, so true.