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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:02 am
by 10ac
If they could just get a job....
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:30 am
by Professor Tiger
bluetick wrote:"No God condones this terror. No grievance justifies these actions. There can be no reasoning - no negotiation - with this brand of evil. Our aim is to degrade and destroy this terrorist group." - B. Obama, speaking to the U.N. general assembly about ISIS, 9/24/2014
"Peter Kassig was taken from us in an act of pure evil by a terrorist group the world rightly associates with inhumanity" - B. Obama. confirming the death of hostage Kassig 11/16/2014
"People of faith should reject those who use religion to justify evil...ISIS is a brutal death cult that in the name of religion carries out unspeakable acts of terrorism." - B. Obama, 2/4/2015
Okay, I will revise and extend my remarks to clarify my point. Here is a speech that President Roosevelt did NOT give:
"Yesterday, December 7th, 1941: a date which will live in infamy. The United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by radical extremists by a certain country in the Far East. The killing of 3,000 US servicemen was evil.
Some close-minded orientalphobes have been demanding that I link the attackers of Pearl Harbor with the Japanese. But that would be wrong. There are millions of peace-loving Japanese people who had nothing to do with that attack. Their predominant religion of Buddhism forbids such regrettable aggressions. This assault on Pearl Harbor was carried out by a small group of extremists who claim to be Japanese, but are not Japanese at all. In fact, they have highjacked that beautiful and ancient Japanese Bushido code, which actually holds peace and goodwill as its highest values.
We must look at the root causes of that unfortunate incident that happened yesterday. I have appointed a presidential commission to study what societal pressures made these extremists do what they did. But it is clear that young people who agree to fly warplanes and drop bombs on our ships are doing so because of a lack of job opportunities in Japan, and failure to be included in mainstream Japanese society. I have instructed the State Department to partner with the moderates in Japanese society, and find ways we can help them to give potential Zero pilots a better path.
I ask that Congress follow this bold new initiative. I ask Congress to continue to slash funding for defense, as we have already been doing since I took office, and spend that money on peace-making rather than war-mongering to combat this radical extremism.
God/Allah/Vishnu/Brahmin/Great Spirit bless the United States of America.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:58 am
by hedge
I wish the Japanese had attacked your house instead of Pearl Harbor...
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:33 am
by aTm
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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:51 pm
by Toemeesleather
Professor Tiger wrote:bluetick wrote:"No God condones this terror. No grievance justifies these actions. There can be no reasoning - no negotiation - with this brand of evil. Our aim is to degrade and destroy this terrorist group." - B. Obama, speaking to the U.N. general assembly about ISIS, 9/24/2014
"Peter Kassig was taken from us in an act of pure evil by a terrorist group the world rightly associates with inhumanity" - B. Obama. confirming the death of hostage Kassig 11/16/2014
"People of faith should reject those who use religion to justify evil...ISIS is a brutal death cult that in the name of religion carries out unspeakable acts of terrorism." - B. Obama, 2/4/2015
Okay, I will revise and extend my remarks to clarify my point. Here is a speech that President Roosevelt did NOT give:
"Yesterday, December 7th, 1941: a date which will live in infamy. The United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by radical extremists by a certain country in the Far East. The killing of 3,000 US servicemen was evil.
Some close-minded orientalphobes have been demanding that I link the attackers of Pearl Harbor with the Japanese. But that would be wrong. There are millions of peace-loving Japanese people who had nothing to do with that attack. Their predominant religion of Buddhism forbids such regrettable aggressions. This assault on Pearl Harbor was carried out by a small group of extremists who claim to be Japanese, but are not Japanese at all. In fact, they have highjacked that beautiful and ancient Japanese Bushido code, which actually holds peace and goodwill as its highest values.
We must look at the root causes of that unfortunate incident that happened yesterday. I have appointed a presidential commission to study what societal pressures made these extremists do what they did. But it is clear that young people who agree to fly warplanes and drop bombs on our ships are doing so because of a lack of job opportunities in Japan, and failure to be included in mainstream Japanese society. I have instructed the State Department to partner with the moderates in Japanese society, and find ways we can help them to give potential Zero pilots a better path.
I ask that Congress follow this bold new initiative. I ask Congress to continue to slash funding for defense, as we have already been doing since I took office, and spend that money on peace-making rather than war-mongering to combat this radical extremism.
God/Allah/Vishnu/Brahmin/Great Spirit bless the United States of America.
And these were just random acts of violence.....
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:02 pm
by bluetick
Your point, prof, would be better taken if ISIS were a sovereign country with a population of 70 million people supporting an army, navy, and air corps. Instead of mostly being 15k former Saddam thugs riding around in pickup trucks.
Imo a better point or comparison would be our occupation and rehabilitation of post-war Japan versus our success or lack thereof of nation building Iraq.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:05 pm
by Toemeesleather
Research in recent years has encouraged those of us who question the popular alarm over allegedly man-made global warming. Actually, the move from “global warming” to “climate change” indicated the silliness of this issue. The climate has been changing since the Earth was formed. This normal course is now taken to be evidence of doom.
Individuals and organizations highly vested in disaster scenarios have relentlessly attacked scientists and others who do not share their beliefs. The attacks have taken a threatening turn.
As to the science itself, it’s worth noting that all predictions of warming since the onset of the last warming episode of 1978-98—which is the only period that the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) attempts to attribute to carbon-dioxide emissions—have greatly exceeded what has been observed. These observations support a much reduced and essentially harmless climate response to increased atmospheric carbon dioxide.
In addition, there is experimental support for the increased importance of variations in solar radiation on climate and a renewed awareness of the importance of natural unforced climate variability that is largely absent in current climate models. There also is observational evidence from several independent studies that the so-called “water vapor feedback,” essential to amplifying the relatively weak impact of carbon dioxide alone on Earth temperatures, is canceled by cloud processes...
World leaders proclaim that climate change is our greatest problem, demonizing carbon dioxide. Yet atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide have been vastly higher through most of Earth’s history. Climates both warmer and colder than the present have coexisted with these higher levels.
Currently elevated levels of carbon dioxide have contributed to increases in agricultural productivity. Indeed, climatologists before the recent global warming hysteria referred to warm periods as “climate optima.” Yet world leaders are embarking on costly policies that have no capacity to replace fossil fuels but enrich crony capitalists at public expense, increasing costs for all, and restricting access to energy to the world’s poorest populations that still lack access to electricity’s immense benefits.
Billions of dollars have been poured into studies supporting climate alarm, and trillions of dollars have been involved in overthrowing the energy economy. So it is unsurprising that great efforts have been made to ramp up hysteria, even as the case for climate alarm is disintegrating.
The latest example began with an article published in the New York Times on Feb. 22 about Willie Soon, a scientist at the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. Mr. Soon has, for over 25 years, argued for a primary role of solar variability on climate. But as Greenpeacenoted in 2011, Mr. Soon was, in small measure, supported by fossil-fuel companies over a period of 10 years.
The Times reintroduced this old material as news, arguing that Mr. Soon had failed to list this support in a recent paper in Science Bulletin of which he was one of four authors. Two days later Arizona Rep. Raul Grijalva, the ranking Democrat on the Natural Resources Committee, used the Times article as the basis for a hunting expedition into anything said, written and communicated by seven individuals— David Legates, John Christy, Judith Curry, Robert Balling, Roger Pielke Jr. , Steven Hayward and me—about testimony we gave to Congress or other governmental bodies. We were selected solely on the basis of our objections to alarmist claims about the climate.
In letters he sent to the presidents of the universities employing us (although I have been retired from MIT since 2013), Mr. Grijalva wanted all details of all of our outside funding, and communications about this funding, including “consulting fees, promotional considerations, speaking fees, honoraria, travel expenses, salary, compensation and any other monies.” Mr. Grijalva acknowledged the absence of any evidence but purportedly wanted to know if accusations made against Mr. Soon about alleged conflicts of interest or failure to disclose his funding sources in science journals might not also apply to us.
Perhaps the most bizarre letter concerned the University of Colorado’s Mr. Pielke. His specialty is science policy, not science per se, and he supports reductions in carbon emissions but finds no basis for associating extreme weather with climate. Mr. Grijalva’s complaint is that Mr. Pielke, in agreeing with the IPCC on extreme weather and climate, contradicts the assertions of John Holdren, President Obama ’s science czar.
Mr. Grijalva’s letters convey an unstated but perfectly clear threat: Research disputing alarm over the climate should cease lest universities that employ such individuals incur massive inconvenience and expense—and scientists holding such views should not offer testimony to Congress. After the Times article, Sens. Edward Markey (D., Mass.), Sheldon Whitehouse (D., R.I.) and Barbara Boxer (D., Calif.) also sent letters to numerous energy companies, industrial organizations and, strangely, many right-of-center think tanks (including the Cato Institute, with which I have an association) to unearth their alleged influence peddling.
The American Meteorological Society responded with appropriate indignation at the singling out of scientists for their scientific positions, as did many individual scientists. On Monday, apparently reacting to criticism, Mr. Grijalva conceded to the National Journal that his requests for communications between the seven of us and our outside funders was “overreach.”
Where all this will lead is still hard to tell. At least Mr. Grijalva’s letters should help clarify for many the essentially political nature of the alarms over the climate, and the damage it is doing to science, the environment and the well-being of the world’s poorest.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:16 pm
by bluetick
Too scairt to give a link or cite a source.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:27 pm
by bluetick
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:34 pm
by Toemeesleather
Jan. 2014 -
In a wide-ranging interview with the New Yorker, President Barack Obama compared Al-Qaeda-linked militants in Iraq and Syria to junior varsity basketball players, downplaying their threat as small-league. He also shared what he thought were the chances of reaching Middle East peace agreements.
“The analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant,” Obama told Remnick. “I think there is a distinction between the capacity and reach of a bin Laden and a network that is actively planning major terrorist plots against the homeland versus jihadists who are engaged in various local power struggles and disputes, often sectarian.”
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:03 pm
by Toemeesleather
The quietest story on the internet, hell, in the whole wide world.....
The “hands up, don’t shoot” slogan used by Democratic activists since August 2013 is a complete falsehood, outgoing Attorney General Eric Holder admitted Wednesday.
He acknowledge the faked story as he released the Justice Department’s investigation of the August 2014 shooting of Michael Brown, in Ferguson, Mo.
“I recognize that the findings in our report may leave some to wonder how the department’s findings can differ so sharply from some of the initial, widely reported accounts of what transpired,” Holder said at the press conference.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:29 pm
by Johnette's Daddy
Toemeesleather wrote:The quietest story on the internet, hell, in the whole wide world.....
The “hands up, don’t shoot” slogan used by Democratic activists since August 2013 is a complete falsehood, outgoing Attorney General Eric Holder admitted Wednesday.
He acknowledge the faked story as he released the Justice Department’s investigation of the August 2014 shooting of Michael Brown, in Ferguson, Mo.
“I recognize that the findings in our report may leave some to wonder how the department’s findings can differ so sharply from some of the initial, widely reported accounts of what transpired,” Holder said at the press conference.
Um, you missed some things:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31735414
US Attorney General Eric Holder says leaders in Ferguson, Missouri, must take "immediate, wholesale" action after a report of widespread racial bias in its law enforcement.
In what Mr Holder himself called a "searing" report, the justice department found a "disturbing and unconstitutional" pattern of abuse.
One official has been fired and another two suspended for racist emails.
The inquiry began after the shooting death of Michael Brown, 18, by police.
His death sparked nationwide protests over police treatment of minorities.
In response to the report, the mayor of Ferguson, James Knowles, admitted "we must do better" to address racial disparities but he said some initiatives were already under way.
Among the more concrete changes already taken was investigation into racist emails - leading to one firing and potentially two more.
The justice department noted in its report no-one had been previously punished for the emails.
Mr Holder acknowledged the result of the investigation into Mr Wilson did not match up with expectations, and that was in part because of what the wider investigation found about the Ferguson police department and courts.
He described Ferguson as a community where officials used law enforcement to generate revenue and did so disproportionately against African-Americans because of racial bias.
"Amid a highly toxic environment, defined by mistrust and resentment, stoked by years of bad feelings, and spurred by illegal and misguided practices - it is not difficult to imagine how a single tragic incident set off the city of Ferguson like a powder keg," Mr Holder said.
"In a sense, members of the community may not have been responding only to a single isolated confrontation, but also to a pervasive, corrosive, and deeply unfortunate lack of trust."
Mr Holder identifies several of the worst abuses found in the report, including a man arrested at gunpoint after he objected to a police officer accusing him of being a paedophile without probable cause. The man lost his job because of the arrest, the attorney general said.
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The report also found black residents were disproportionately subject to baseless traffic stops and citations for infractions as petty as walking down the middle of the street.
The justice department also outlined their findings of explicit racial bias in the ranks - including the racist emails, one depicting President Obama as a chimpanzee.
The report noted public officials regularly made tickets and other minor violations "go away" for for white friends while some black residents spent nights in jail for non-payment of tickets.
Although some community perceptions around the death of Michael Brown may not have been accurate, Mr Holder said,
"the climate that created them was all too real". He added: "Some of those protesters were right."
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:44 pm
by sardis
So why doesn't he bring up charges then? When it comes right down to it, It's just a bunch of preaching.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:03 am
by Johnette's Daddy
sardis wrote:So why doesn't he bring up charges then? When it comes right down to it, It's just a bunch of preaching.
He will. The DOJ is going to ask Ferguson PD to agree to a Civil Rights Consent Decree and if they don't, the DOJ will sue to either take over the Ferguson PD or disband it entirely. Pretty much every PD in that situation accepts the consent decree because the DOJ always wins the court case and when the Feds take over, they put local cops in federal prisons.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:55 am
by Professor Tiger
The emails and ticket writing stats are indeed pretty damning.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:08 am
by Toemeesleather
Not as damning as the idiot/sycophant sheep.
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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:01 am
by Toemeesleather
Um, you missed some things:
Yep, tons of liars/hoodlum protesters/talking heads/community organizers walk away scott-free with their reputations in tact.
Thanks for the reminder.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:06 am
by bluetick
The new GOP-controlled congress is killing it. Hallelujah!
FEBRUARY JOBS REPORT CRUSHES EXPECTATIONS - Business Insider
In February, the economy added 295,000 jobs and the unemployment rate fell to 5.5% from 5.7%, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
February marks the 12th straight month of jobs gains over 200,000
The unemployment rate, at 5.5%, is at its lowest level since May 2008
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:57 am
by Toemeesleather
NYT - 1985:
Beginning in a decade or two, scientists expect the warming of the atmosphere to melt the polar icecaps, raising the level of the seas, flooding coastal areas, eroding the shores and sending salt water far into fresh-water estuaries. Storm patterns will change, drying out some areas, swamping others and generally throwing agriculture into turmoil. Federal climate experts have suggested that within a century the greenhouse effect could turn New York City into something with the climate of Daytona Beach, Fla.
..Scientists have explanations for that, and they believe their temperature curves will soon soar off the scale.
LMAO, so Mr. Mann took his orders from the NYT......you can't make this sh!te up!!!llll
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/05/12/weeki ... ecast.html
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:44 pm
by Toemeesleather
Still not matching up w/
published unemployment rate.....can some Obammer gobbler answer that?