The Goat Pen

Toemeesleather wrote:
"This is what we call smart power," Clinton said to a small audience at Georgetown. "Using every possible tool and partner to advance peace and security. Leaving no one on the sidelines. Showing respect even for one's enemies. Trying to understand, in so far as psychologically possible, empathize with their perspective and point of view. Helping to define the problems, determine the solutions. That is what we believe in the 21st century will change -- change the prospects for peace."

bluetick wrote:"In this hour I would ask of the Lord God only this: that He would give His blessing to our work, and that He may ever give us the courage to do the right. I am convinced that men who are created by God should live in accordance with the will of the Almighty. No man can fashion world history unless upon his purpose and his powers there rests the blessings of this Providence."

- A. Hitler, German Chancellor, excerpt from Reichstag Speech 1937

bluetick wrote:

Toemeesleather wrote:
"This is what we call smart power," Clinton said to a small audience at Georgetown. "Using every possible tool and partner to advance peace and security. Leaving no one on the sidelines. Showing respect even for one's enemies. Trying to understand, in so far as psychologically possible, empathize with their perspective and point of view. Helping to define the problems, determine the solutions. That is what we believe in the 21st century will change -- change the prospects for peace."

She wasn't referring to the tea party?

German Protestants and Catholics murdered 6 million Jews over half a century ago. Hopefully no one holds that against little ol' Methodist me, seeing as how I hadn't entered the world yet.

If there are Jews who think all Protestants are accountable and wish each of us a grizzly death...well, they've managed to keep those thoughts to themselves. Good on them who aren't willing to paint all members of a race or religion with the same big-ass brush.

Professor Tiger wrote:

German Protestants and Catholics murdered 6 million Jews over half a century ago. Hopefully no one holds that against little ol' Methodist me, seeing as how I hadn't entered the world yet.

If there are Jews who think all Protestants are accountable and wish each of us a grizzly death...well, they've managed to keep those thoughts to themselves. Good on them who aren't willing to paint all members of a race or religion with the same big-ass brush.

Tick, is this your logic?

1. Hitler was a Christian.
2. Hitler and other European Christians committed the Holocaust.
3. Nobody blames Christians for the Holocaust, so nobody should connect the horrors Muslims regularly commit with Islam.

Is that what you are saying?

Some of my clients are Muslim, and they are responsible people and good citizens. I bet you know some too. No way you'd lump them in with these islamofascist psychos, right?
Or am I wrong?

Professor Tiger wrote:

I don't understand the need to concoct crazy arguments like "Hitler was a Catholic" to create moral equivalencies with Christianity (which was a lot like Islam during the Middle Ages, but grew out of it). Hitler and the Nazis did not send the Jews to the ovens while chanting, "Praise the Lord!"

I know most Muslim people would not have carried out an attack like this. But here's the important point. Hundreds of millions of them support an attack like this. They applaud an attack like this.