The Goat Pen

never was my assessment trump putin was always a media assessmsnt

never was a trump putin thing to begin with

it was an anybody but Hillary motive from russia to hack the dmc/elections

trump just happened to be able to ride the coattails not that he needed them

eCat wrote:According to the author, who apparently is a serious author, manuscript turns up where Obama writes that America is a racist country and you have to pass reforms that favor minorities on the sly to whites don't know about it.

All liberals believe America is a racist country that needs to fixed. My question is, "If America is as racist as you say it is, then how did America vote for a black guy for president, twice?

eCat wrote:It would appear to be a good bet that Trump will be replacing Kennedy in the near future.

Replacing a conservative (Scalia) with another conservative (Gorsuch) was good.

Replacing a mushy moderate (Kennedy) with a conservative would be even better.

Replacing a leftist (Ginsberg) with a conservative would usher in a Golden Age.

Professor Tiger wrote:

eCat wrote:According to the author, who apparently is a serious author, manuscript turns up where Obama writes that America is a racist country and you have to pass reforms that favor minorities on the sly to whites don't know about it.

All liberals believe America is a racist country that needs to fixed. My question is, "If America is as racist as you say it is, then how did America vote for a black guy for president, twice?

White guilt???????

You've got enough white on you to absorb more guilt than Jesus...

Professor Tiger wrote:

eCat wrote:According to the author, who apparently is a serious author, manuscript turns up where Obama writes that America is a racist country and you have to pass reforms that favor minorities on the sly to whites don't know about it.

All liberals believe America is a racist country that needs to fixed. My question is, "If America is as racist as you say it is, then how did America vote for a black guy for president, twice?

Nice try with the all or none angle, Prof. There's plenty of racism but clearly we're better than we were 50 years ago, 30 years ago, maybe even 10 years ago. Maybe when people start accepting that things are still far from perfect, we'll move even further along.

hedge wrote:The MIF went to some nursing conference in New Bern, so she's been gone the past few days (and nights), it was enough of an opening for Stu to stop by for a visit just past the witching hour the other night. First time he's darkened my door in many months, maybe even a year...

Does she work in public health?

hedge wrote:In fairness, the MIF is an aggrieved party in general herself. Neither she nor Stu want to deal with competing grievances. They are convinced that their own grievances are the most grievous. In a sense, that level of methodical harboring of grievances is merely an expression of monstrous vanity...

I'm happy to comfort the MIF and listen to her grievances...

Saint wrote:

Professor Tiger wrote:

eCat wrote:According to the author, who apparently is a serious author, manuscript turns up where Obama writes that America is a racist country and you have to pass reforms that favor minorities on the sly to whites don't know about it.

All liberals believe America is a racist country that needs to fixed. My question is, "If America is as racist as you say it is, then how did America vote for a black guy for president, twice?

Nice try with the all or none angle, Prof. There's plenty of racism but clearly we're better than we were 50 years ago, 30 years ago, maybe even 10 years ago. Maybe when people start accepting that things are still far from perfect, we'll move even further along.

Yeah. I love when people try to tell me racism is a thing of the past. It's usually the most racist and/or insulated persons who say that shit..

"Nice try with the all or none angle, Prof."

Nuanced thought isn't really Prof's strong suit...

"Does she work in public health?"

Yes. She said that along with heroin, Hep C is also an epidemic (according to the presenter of one of the talks she attended)...

"I'm happy to comfort the MIF and listen to her grievances..."

Not for long you won't, esp. when you become the focus of those grievances...

hedge wrote:"Does she work in public health?"

Yes. She said that along with heroin, Hep C is also an epidemic (according to the presenter of one of the talks she attended)...

Mom worked as a RN then an NP in public health for 25 years. She was even president of the state association at one point. They always held their conventions in New Bern at the conference center/hotel on the river, Wilmington or the old Sheraton in Atlantic Beach.

hedge wrote:"I'm happy to comfort the MIF and listen to her grievances..."

Not for long you won't, esp. when you become the focus of those grievances...

I grew up in a family full of women. I can tune one out.

sardis wrote:I agree with BRKLN, he really did not push an African American agenda while in office. He is/was foremost a secular humanist socialist and rode that agenda as President. I feel most African Americans were upset with a lot of his social agenda he pushed while he was in office, but stayed with him because of history and the alternative.

boom. Lower case "boom", but boom.

Outside of My Brother's Keeper and the commutation of the sentences of a shitload of non-violent drug offenders, Obama's biggest help to Black people, directly, via his Presidency was being the first two term President in over 50 years without a significant scandal. He didn't give Black people truckloads of Kools and their own record labels like he promised in the meetings.

I thought black people prefer Newports

Black people are not a monolith!

Well, except for menthol. Black people have to have menthol...

Black people are a monolith in which political party they vote for. The Democrats are clearly the menthols of the two.

So does Ben Carson smoke Kools or Newports?

Professor Tiger wrote:Black people are a monolith in which political party they vote for. The Democrats are clearly the menthols of the two.

I remember watching an episode of "Blackish" where their son joined some young Republicans club at school just to meet a girl. His parents (devoted black democrats) were so incensed, they had to meet the parents of the daughter to help make them understand how two intelligent, educated, black adults, could knowingly be Republican. Things kind of broke down from there, hilarity ensued.

Everything IB knows about black folks he learned from watching "Blackish".

What's funny is older black folks are often very socially conservative. The republican party has done a horrible job of courting them. Ditto hispanics. My best friend is black. He is waaaaaaaay more conservative than I am, and while that's just a single anecdotal account, it is not uncommon in my experience. To hear him talk about gay marriage, welfare, gun control, and a hundred other things, you would be convinced that you were speaking with a stalwart leader of the republicans.