The Goat Pen

hedge wrote: Also, the idea that Obama passed reforms (or did anything else, including taking a shit) "on the sly" is just silly...

no one yet is saying that. Its simply an insight to his beliefs as he was entering into politics on how he needed to govern, his views on the country he was attempting to lead and his motivating factors in picking his cabinet, his justices and populating the legal branches of government.

I agree with BRKLN, he really did not push an African American agenda while in office. He is/was foremost a secular humanist socialist and rode that agenda as President. I feel most African Americans were upset with a lot of his social agenda he pushed while he was in office, but stayed with him because of history and the alternative.

I don't think he pushed it either but I think Trayvon Martin is where he created a wedge that started a division. Then Michael Brown followed and it was no longer a commentary on an isolated incident

..."those bitter clingers"...

so all the talk of trump in collusion with the Russians takes a hit last night

crashcourse wrote:so all the talk of trump in collusion with the Russians takes a hit last night

That is a stupid assessment. Russia/Trump was a marriage of convenience. Those relationships end, but they still existed.

Obama left this country more racially divided? Is that some kind of joke? No shit, all the pissed off crackers muttering to themselves about the bill finally coming due on their sorry asses and their sorry legacy is just evolution. Of course, they don't want to believe in that either.

Well, I bet Obama would agree with me concerning our respective pet peeves that progress has been made (legalization of marijuana in my case), while acknowledging that there are still plenty of pockets of resistance (your intransigent refusal to get on board with heroin legalization)...

Saint wrote:Obama left this country more racially divided? Is that some kind of joke? No shit, all the pissed off crackers muttering to themselves about the bill finally coming due on their sorry asses and their sorry legacy is just evolution. Of course, they don't want to believe in that either.

you need to move out of North Carolina. You're past bitter on the life enjoyment scale.

North Carolina's got nothing to do with it...

And yet, I'm not as angry as Quint, er, eCat.

Good point...

The MIF went to some nursing conference in New Bern, so she's been gone the past few days (and nights), it was enough of an opening for Stu to stop by for a visit just past the witching hour the other night. First time he's darkened my door in many months, maybe even a year...

DooKSucks wrote:

crashcourse wrote:so all the talk of trump in collusion with the Russians takes a hit last night

That is a stupid assessment. Russia/Trump was a marriage of convenience. Those relationships end, but they still existed.

It's not Russia/Trump, it's Putin/Trump, and that still seems to be hot and heavy.

she's like "don't let that guy come over, all he does is rant about shit that makes him angry"

Actually, this is the only place I rant. Except home and work but not that much politics at either of those places. Sometimes in my car when I'm by myself.

In fairness, the MIF is an aggrieved party in general herself. Neither she nor Stu want to deal with competing grievances. They are convinced that their own grievances are the most grievous. In a sense, that level of methodical harboring of grievances is merely an expression of monstrous vanity...

"Actually, this is the only place I rant. Except home and work.... Sometimes in my car when I'm by myself."

Well that pretty much accounts for every minute of your day. When do you not rant? At the Weeblo-ree??

my wife and son are the ranters in this house.

I have to sneak off to watch any kind of news related stuff, because if they hear it on TV, then they have to talk to me about it and I never get to hear what the guy is saying once they start.

The dinner table is where I do my lecturing. I have a captive audience to hear my thoughts.

We don't eat dinner much anymore now that I think of it.

LMAO...