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The whole academics argument is ridiculous, anyway.

All BCS conferences have essentially the same admission criteria for athletes now; and the idea that a football player getting a comm or marketing BA degree from school A is appreciably different from what he would get from school B is the height of stupidity.

AlabamAlum wrote:Why would Mizzou's academics have an issue? Missouri is middle of the road academically. Nothing to write home about - and they were in a conference that was very similar- overall- to the SEC before.

Because they still hope for admission to the B1G. Of course, they shouldn't. Especially not if they are going to sign away all their media rights for 6 years or whatever anyway.

I think that conference alignment does affect academic reputation, and that the academics are smart to look into it. A decent portion of academic prestige comes from simple perception and association. I think that certain members of the Big Ten and Pac-8 and up have benefitted from aligning with stronger institutions in those conferences.

Zona is going to hire Leach I bet

Someone needs to. It also needs to be someone not in the SEC west.

I think that conference alignment does affect academic reputation

Honest question:

Do you think, for example, that Texas' academic reputation is hurt because they play in a conference with Texas Tech and K-State? Do you believe that Vandy is hurt, reputation-wise, because they play in a conference with Miss State? If so, who is issuing that opinion on Texas and Vandy and to what tangible end?

And speaking of the BigTen, were they hurt by adding UNL?

who is issuing that opinion on Texas and Vandy and to what tangible end?

The Stonecutters. To make Steve Guttenberg a star.

who is issuing that opinion on Texas and Vandy and to what tangible end?

All academic posturing and posing is done by and for other academics. Whatever some egghead thinks is important, becomes important in truth. If they all decide that the letters UC in your name is important, then you get the ridiculousness that says that 6 of the top 10 public schools in the country are Cal, UCLA, UCSB, UC-SD, UC-Davis, and UC-Irvine

Oh, I agree that perception can become reality. I am just curious how this has happened with schools because of the group their undergrad sports teams associate with.

Because I have not seen it. I am adjunct faculty at UAB (which is a middling school academically -save, of course, health sciences and research) which is in C-USA, a conference with a mish-mash of schools: Tulane and Rice on one end and Central Florida and UTEP on the other. I have never heard an academic ponder the association of those schools' undergrad athletic teams, or the impact on 'reputation'.

I have heard the soundbytes on ESPN and seen a line or two in a press release, but that's it - when asked to explain how Vandy, Texas, and Cal are hurt by an undergrad althletics association with Miss State, Texas Tech, and Arizona State no one can.

In the end, I think that a school like Mizzou feels better about talking academics than how they wish to avoid perpetual .500 seasons in the revenue sports.

I played a dude with Andre Johnson (inj) and Brandon Marshall (bye) in his starting lineup and still lost, thanks to shit by my WRs: Fitzgerald, Jordy Nelson and the other guy who sucks too (Sidney Rice). fucking killed me.

Jordy Nelson burned me too but I was lucky enough to have good RB's and a surprising TE

Name me one other major college AD that could have the hires of Billy Gillispie and Joker Phillips on his resume and still retain ther job?

Don't get me started...

"Tulane and Rice on one end and Central Florida and UTEP on the other."

Which two are on the good end...

crotch wrote:Kentucky/Barhnart isn't smart enough to hire Leach. Name me one other major college AD that could have the hires of Billy Gillispie and Joker Phillips on his resume and still retain ther job?

....oh, and btw, I get a chuckle when I think of the Big Blue fans here at the Pen who blasted me last year when I started calling for Joker's job...just like they did when I FIRST started calling for Tubby's. Someday you young pups will learn.

Dick Baddour:

1. Carl Torbush
2. Carl Torbush AGAIN (was fired and then re-hired)
3. John Bunting
4. Matt Doherty

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/sports/2011 ... expansion/

nodding

sardis wrote:"Tulane and Rice on one end and Central Florida and UTEP on the other."

Which two are on the good end...

Tulane and Rice the brain and Central Florida and UTEP the ass. It depends on which you consider to be the good end.

Supposedly Bubba Cunningham of Tulsa will be UNC's next AD.

Was Boss Hog not available?

I thought Bubba Cunningham was Richie and Joanie's older brother who went upstairs and was never heard from again...