The Goat Pen

“Oh, where are you going to, all you Big Steamers,
/ With England's own coal, up and down the salt seas?”
-- Rudyard Kipling

hedge wrote:I don't know much about about the Kipper, except that he's regarded by some as a racist...

10ac wrote:Loser party looking for a loser town.

Toemeesleather wrote:Obviously, no white hispanics or teabaggers involved or it would have alllllll over the morning shows and the 6 o'clock news. Gang on gang/black on black deaths not important in Brock's hometown.


It started when someone shot and wounded a couple, then two people fired at the shooter, then there was a chase and shots exchanged and a man sitting on a porch was hit. Responding officers kept cutting each other off on their radios as they reported other gunfire in the area late Sunday night and early Monday morning.

Then the heavy equipment rolled in: A helicopter and SUVs packed with lockers of rifles. SWAT teams in green coveralls patrolled the streets with uniformed officers.


It was just one of dozens of shooting scenes across Chicago over the long Fourth of July weekend. In all, at least 82 people were shot, 14 of them fatally, since Thursday afternoon when two woman were shot as they sat outside a two-flat within a block of Garfield Park.

Five of the people were shot by police over 36 hours on Friday and Saturday, including two boys 14 and 16 who were killed when they allegedly refused to drop their guns.

Many of the long weekend's shootings were on the South Side, clustered in the Englewood, Roseland, Gresham and West Pullman neighborhoods that rank among the most violent in the city.

The victims ranged from the 14-year-boy shot by police in the Old Irving Park neighborhood to a 66-year-old woman grazed in the head as she walked up the steps of her porch on the Far South .

AlabamAlum wrote:I actually like Cleveland.

Johnette's Daddy wrote:

AlabamAlum wrote:I actually like Cleveland.

Spent the first 15 years of my life there. Fond memories, but Cleveland is dead.

Professor Tiger wrote:I remember when Cleveland's river caught fire.