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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:38 pm
by Johnette's Daddy
bluetick wrote:
Professor Tiger wrote:
JD, do you view those voters the same way you presumably view Clarence Thomas, Alan West, Herman Cain, Alan Keyes, Thomas Sowell, Shelby Steele, Condolleeza Rice, J.C. Watts, Walter Williams, etc.?
Larry Elder would like to have a couple of words with you.
Not at all.

My dad was a Republican, as is my Father-in-law. My maternal grandpa - who was a target of the House Un-American Activities Committee in the 50s because of his Civil Rights work - voted Republican in every election from 1924 (when he moved to Ohio) until 1964.

Jackie Robinson, Wilt Chamberlain . . . there's a great history of blacks voting Republican.

Of course, once y'all started courting Klansmen, that changed. But blacks voting for the lesser of two evils? Time honored tradition!

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:26 pm
by bluetick
First in with Robert Byrd of bygod WVa!

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:45 pm
by Johnette's Daddy
bluetick wrote:First in with Robert Byrd of bygod WVa!
It's "West - By God! - Virginia."

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:52 pm
by Johnette's Daddy
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/6/20/04251/9357

It all began when the pig-headed state of Virginia passed a silly constitution in 1776, which granted suffrage only to white males who owned at least 50 acres of land (25 if it was "improved" land). This was wonderful for rich eastern Virginian "gentlemen farmers" who owned big plantations, but it kind of sucked for the western half of the state which (then, as now) was populated by poor, ignorant, savage rednecks whose greatest asset was an ability to breed faster than starvation and feuding could kill them off. Those earliest hillbilly ancestors of the great state of West Virginia displayed the true mountaineer spirit, surviving in the face of overwhelming evolutionary and economic factors which were against them, and were the founders of the great lineage of West Virginia rednecks which to this day thrives in the hills and valleys of this beautiful state.

In 1829, eastern Virginia made the concession of calling a constitutional convention, and the rich landowners (remember, they're the ones who get to vote) voted down every reform suggested. The rednecks went home empty-handed and grumbling. The eastern Virginians tried various peace offerings including the formation of new counties (and thus more opportunities to vote), and the building of roads throughout western Virginia, but as these reforms did not guarantee their descendants the promised land of beer and TV dinners, the western Virginians continued to be grizzled and angry.

In 1850, Virginia held another convention. This time, every white male 21 or older got the vote, and the constitution was changed to allow for the people to elect the governor and the judges. However, the sneaky eastern Virginians slipped in a provision on property tax reform: property would be taxed at face value -- except for slaves. Eastern Virginians owned lots of slaves because they were rich. Western Virginians were still dirt-poor and couldn't afford slaves to get the discount, so now they got to pay (relatively) higher property taxes than their "gentlemen" neighbors to the east. More grumbling ensued.

Then the War of Northern Aggression came along, and western Virginians had their chance. From 11 June to 25 June 1861, a group of delegates meeting in the city of Wheeling decided that they'd had enough and the Virginia legislature was a bunch of loonies who shouldn't be running the state. To solve this problem, they declared themselves to be the government of the "Reorganized State of Virginia," which re-joined the Union on 24 October of that year.

Unfortunately, there were serious problems with a bunch of guys in Wheeling just declaring themselves to be the legitimate government of the Union state of Virginia, especially when it seemed that Virginia was still quite avidly fighting for the Confederacy. The solution was simple, and founded in the most sacred tradition of American government: the Reorganized State of Virginia's government reasoned that if the United States could secede from Great Britain and Virginia could secede from the United States, then, by God, they could secede from Virginia!

At first it appeared there might be a constitutional issue since secession from a state would require the permission of the state to be seceded from, and the government that sat in Richmond was, by this point, not too happy with the government that sat in Wheeling. There was a happy ending, however, as President Lincoln had officially recognized the Reorganized Government of Virginia and allowed it to send Senators and Representatives to Washington. Having remembered this convenient fact, the Reorganized Government granted itself permission to secede from itself, and submitted a bill recognizing its statehood to Congress.

On 31 December 1862, Lincoln signed a freshly-passed statehood bill, which noticeably did not include provisions for the outlawing of slavery. On 26 March 1863, the (at the time) fifty counties of West Virginia approved the statehood bill (with an amendment abolishing slavery), and on 20 June of that year, the State of West Virginia was officially created, with Arthur I. Boreman (who had run unopposed for the office) as its first governor.

The Reorganized Government of Virginia, sensing that its work was done, promptly got the hell out of the new state, moving to Alexandria and eventually to Richmond. In 1865, after the war was over, the Reorganized Government challenged the legitimacy of West Virginia's statehood and elections were held in a couple of counties to determine which state they would be part of. The federal government, in a "police action" of sorts, sent Union troops to the polls and scared off the pro-Virginia factions. Then, the U.S. Supreme Court, speaking for a Federal government which was by this time rather tired of the whole mess, decided that Reorganized Virginia couldn't have its cake and eat it too, and handed down a ruling which implicitly approved of West Virginia's statehood while establishing a clear boundary between the two states. By 1871 the legal battles were pretty much over; West Virginia was official and had scored some extra counties in the deal.

And that was only the beginning. The tale of West Virginia since that historic day in 1863 is a long and storied one, full of heroic coon-dogs and legendary pickup trucks. But it's a tale for another day, because today, on the 20th of June, West Virginians young and old remember the origins of their state and gather together as one people, united with one voice and one cause. On this day we stand tall and look eastward, toward the state from which we separated in times of strife and turmoil, and we remember the hardships we suffered and how we toiled for our liberty. And we call out with that one voice, with one message, the motto of our great state:

TAKE US BACK!

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:58 am
by Jungle Rat
Professor Tiger wrote:
Jungle Rat wrote:The Republican party is dead.
I wouldn't quite say it was dead. At least yet. They're doing fine at the state and local level. They already control the House, and have good chance at winning the Senate soon. But I agree their long term prospects aren't great. The Establishment is doing its best to run the Tea Party types out of town, and they will probably succeed. The reason Romney lost is the conservative base didn't turn out. That will happen more and more.

And the xenophobes in the GOP are doing their best to thoroughly alienate the Hispanics. As the Hispanic population grows, organizes, and votes reliably for the Dem's, the R's will be a permanent minority party. There aren't enough old bald fat rich angry white guys to win much longer.
No. It's dead.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:02 am
by Professor Tiger
bluetick wrote:First in with Robert Byrd of bygod WVa!
Correct. No liberal, including African Americans, ever minded voting for a party whose Senate Majority leader was once a real-life Grand Wizard.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:06 am
by bluetick
Professor Tiger wrote:
bluetick wrote:First in with Robert Byrd of bygod WVa!
Correct. No liberal, including African Americans, ever minded voting for a party whose Senate Majority leader was once a real-life Grand Wizard.
Incorrect. It wears on me every day. Just now I could barely lift my pumpkin head off the pillow...complete with the ice pick behind my left eyeball.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:21 am
by Professor Tiger
Caused by vacation reverie or Robert Byrd?

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:45 am
by hedge
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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:52 am
by hedge
Evidently, black people love their grandchildren, too. Fortunately, it only took him until 1982 to realize it...

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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:28 am
by Toemeesleather
Fookin' tea bagger judges are going to kill all of us.....First the supremes tell Brock he ain't a King, now this........don't they know gubment knows best??!!111


After a long legal battle, sodas larger than 16 ounces are free, once and for all, to roam the streets of New York City without fear of persecution.

The city lost its final appeal on the soda ban in New York's State Court of Appeals today, exhausting its legal options for reinstating a rule that became a point of contention as soon it was enacted under Michael Bloomberg in 2012. Judge Eugene F. Pigott Jr. wrote in his decision that the city's Board of Health "exceeded the scope of its regulatory authority" with the ban, which two lower state courts had already ruled against.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:44 pm
by bluetick
Drought. Flooding. Tornados. Shit-ton of earthquakes in OK. Kids bubbling up from Central America.

Serious question, toe...is God punishing us for electing a negro president?

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:50 pm
by Dr. Strangelove
LMAO...GOP primary loser claims opponent is actually dead and the guy he lost to is just a lookalike

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/f ... accusation

On the website, Murray claims that Lucas and "a few other Oklahoma and other States’ Congressional Members," were executed "on or about" Jan. 11, 2011 in southern Ukraine.

"On television they were depicted as being executed by the hanging about the neck until death on a white stage and in front of witnesses," the website claims. "Other now current Members of Congress have shared those facts on television also. We know that it is possible to use look alike artificial or manmade replacements, however Rep. Lucas was not eligible to serve as a Congressional Member after that time."

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:31 pm
by 10ac
lmao. Those crazy pubs...

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:40 pm
by Johnette's Daddy
Dr. Strangelove wrote:LMAO...GOP primary loser claims opponent is actually dead and the guy he lost to is just a lookalike

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/f ... accusation

On the website, Murray claims that Lucas and "a few other Oklahoma and other States’ Congressional Members," were executed "on or about" Jan. 11, 2011 in southern Ukraine.

"On television they were depicted as being executed by the hanging about the neck until death on a white stage and in front of witnesses," the website claims. "Other now current Members of Congress have shared those facts on television also. We know that it is possible to use look alike artificial or manmade replacements, however Rep. Lucas was not eligible to serve as a Congressional Member after that time."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Star

Double Star is a science fiction novel by Robert A. Heinlein, first serialized in Astounding Science Fiction (February, March, April 1956) and published in hardcover the same year. It received the 1956 Hugo Award for Best Novel (his first).

The story, which is told in the first person, centers on down-and-out actor Lawrence Smith (stage name Lorenzo Smythe, a.k.a. "The Great Lorenzo"). A brilliant actor and mimic (or so we are told, by Smith himself), he is down to his last coin when a spaceman hires him to double for an unspecified public figure. It is only when he is on his way to Mars that he finds out he will have to impersonate one of the most prominent politicians in the solar system (and one with whose views Smith deeply disagrees): John Joseph Bonforte. Bonforte is the leader of the Expansionist coalition, currently out of office but with a good chance of changing that at the next general election. Bonforte has been kidnapped by his political opponents, and his aides want Smith to impersonate Bonforte while they try to find him.

Bonforte is rescued, but he is in poor health due to the treatment inflicted on him during his imprisonment. This forces Smith to extend his performance, even to becoming temporary Supreme Minister and running in an election. (This is made plausible through Bonforte's extensive Farley Files.) The central political issue in the election is the granting of the vote to Martians in the human-dominated Solar System. Lorenzo shares the anti-Martian prejudice prevalent among large parts of Earth's population, but he is called upon to assume the persona of the most prominent advocate for Martian enfranchisement. Smith takes on not only Bonforte's appearance, but some aspects of his personality.

At the moment of electoral victory, Bonforte dies of the aftereffects of his kidnapping, and Smith realizes he has little choice but to assume the role for life. In a retrospective conclusion set twenty-five years later, Smith reveals that he wrote the first-person narrative as therapy. Lorenzo has become Bonforte, suppressing his own identity permanently. He has been generally successful and has carried forward Bonforte's ideals to the best of his ability. Penny (Bonforte's adoring secretary and now Smith's wife) says, "she never loved anyone else."

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:41 am
by Toemeesleather
.is God punishing us for electing a negro president?


Seems to me the same crowd as always is being punished....the poor, minorities, wimmen and of course, the children.

Why blame God? (He didn't vote)... Just tired of blaming Bush?

Must be rough in that little box you live in.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:20 pm
by Professor Tiger
Glen Beck apologizes to liberals over Iraq

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/politics/gl ... top&ref=OB

Good for him.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:32 pm
by Johnette's Daddy
4-Year-Old Ruins Baby Sitter’s Plan to Blame Robbery on Black Man
(or, why Black Americans are so paranoid)

A 4-year-old Ferndale, Washington girl alerted police to the fact that her babysitter was lying about a home invasion that took place last Wednesday.

Milwaukee’s WITI reported that Abby Dean’s 17-year-old sitter concocted a plan to steal the Dean family’s belongings and blame the theft on a mythical group of “armed black men.”

Last Wednesday, Abby and her sitter were home alone when the sitter’s boyfriend and another man entered the home with weapons and ordered the two of them out.

“The bad guys stole by kitty bank. They stole my iPod,” Abby told WITI. “They also stole my Xbox and my Wii.”

The sitter told police she’d never seen the men before, but that one of them looked like an African-American neighbor named Cody Oaks.

Police handcuffed Oaks and questioned him for hours. It was Abby, however, who told police that he couldn’t be the robber.

“It wasn’t the right skin color,” said Abby. The robbers she saw, she said, were white men.

When police confronted the sitter with that detail, the 17-year-old broke down and confessed to the crime.

Abby’s mother, Jennifer Dean, said she’s proud of her daughter for telling the truth.

“Literally in 30 seconds she changed everything that had been going on for five, six hours,” she said.

Neighbor Cody Oaks is angry to have been unfairly targeted by police acting at the sitter’s direction.

“It’s kinda sad ’cause I don’t think she realizes the dangerous position she put me in,” he said.

Abby happily reported that all of her belongings have been returned.

“They got it back because of me being the superhero,” said the girl.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture ... c=obinsite

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:26 pm
by sardis
When even the liberal justices go against you then it's the constitution that is the problem...


http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/c ... nning.html

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:34 pm
by 10ac