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Not to worry though.......concussion summit currently going on as we speak at the WH.

Would Jesus own a gun?

The clean energy economy is here, and creating jobs all across the country. In fact, some may even be in your neighborhood.

Recently Environmental Entrepreneurs (E2) reported 137 clean energy job announcements that could create 46,000 jobs in 42 states. From manufacturing plants to power generation projects to energy efficient retrofits, more than 126 companies, cities, and organizations are creating jobs across this great land. From Atlanta to Michigan to Arizona, workers are finding jobs in the clean energy field.

In Atlanta a new streetcar will increase mobility for citizens traveling between downtown and the greater Atlanta region. This project will create almost 1,000 construction jobs alone.

In Madison County, Indiana, just outside Indianapolis, a 200 megawatt wind farm is being built. Besides generating electricity for up to 60,000 homes, more than 300 workers have been hired to help build the farm.

Yuma, Arizona is the new home to a solar plant – the first on a state trust land – creating 100 construction jobs for workers in the Grand Canyon State.

Magna E-Car Systems is opening a manufacturing facility in Michigan to produce parts for electric and hybrid vehicles. The 66,000 square-foot facility will expand its 95 employees to 525 over the next five years.

These are just a few examples of how local government and national organizations are recognizing that the clean energy economy is here, and here to stay


http://energy.gov/articles/clean-energy ... ating-jobs


All this and the economy shrinks???111

hedge wrote:Would Jesus own a gun?

I bet that whole nailing him to a cross thing might have played out a little different had he been packing.

If Jesus had been packing, he wouldn't have been Jesus, he would've been Caesar. I just think it's funny that so many people say they want to be christians when in fact they'd rather be Romans...

"In Madison County, Indiana, just outside Indianapolis, a 200 megawatt wind farm is being built. Besides generating electricity for up to 60,000 homes, more than 300 workers have been hired to help build the farm."

I wonder if that's going to fuck up the bridges of Madison County?

"Yuma, Arizona is the new home to a solar plant – the first on a state trust land – creating 100 construction jobs for workers in the Grand Canyon State."

"Two days later the Yumas attacked the crossing. The scows were on the west bank of the river discharging cargo as arranged and the travelers stood by to claim their goods. The savages came both mounted and afoot out of the willows with no warning and swarmed across the open ground toward the ferry. On the hill above them Brown and Long Webster swung the howitzer and steadied it and Brown crammed his lighted cigar into the touch-hole.

Even over that open terrain the concussion was immense. The howitzer in its truck leaped from the ground and clattered smoking backward across the packed clay. On the floodplain below the fort a terrible destruction had passed and upward of a dozen of the Yumas lay dead or writhing in the sand. A great howl went up among them and Glanton and his riders defiled out of the wooded littoral upriver and rode upon them and they cried out in rage at their betrayal."

hedge wrote:If Jesus had been packing, he wouldn't have been Jesus, he would've been Caesar. I just think it's funny that so many people say they want to be christians when in fact they'd rather be Romans...

At least one person in Jesus' entourage was packing (according to John 18):

10 Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear. (The servant’s name was Malchus.)

11 Jesus commanded Peter, “Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?”

12 Then the detachment of soldiers with its commander and the Jewish officials arrested Jesus. They bound him 13 and brought him first to Annas, who was the father-in-law of Caiaphas, the high priest that year. 14 Caiaphas was the one who had advised the Jewish leaders that it would be good if one man died for the people.

Jesus wasn't the namby-pamby he's portrayed as (neither was he a blue-eyed Anglo Saxon). The historical Jesus led a band of militants, thugs and ne'er-do-wells. The whole "mysterium tremendum" is that he chose death on the cross when he likely could have led a very successful armed rebellion and overthrown Pilate & Herod . . . until the Romans sent in reinforcements from Egypt and Syria . . .

I may continue this on the religion thread.

Peter must have been a sword nut Republican. That makes him worse than Judas. MUCH worse, right JD?

When swords are outlawed only outlaws will have swords.

Professor Tiger wrote:Peter must have been a sword nut Republican. That makes him worse than Judas. MUCH worse, right JD?

Peter and the Apostles were Roosevelt New Deal Socialist Democrats, according to the Bible:

Acts 2:

44 And all the believers met together constantly and shared everything with each other, 45 selling their possessions and dividing with those in need. 46 They worshiped together regularly at the Temple each day, met in small groups in homes for Communion, and shared their meals with great joy and thankfulness, 47 praising God. The whole city was favorable to them, and each day God added to them all who were being saved.

Acts 4:

32 All the believers were of one heart and mind, and no one felt that what he owned was his own; everyone was sharing. 33 And the apostles preached powerful sermons about the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and there was warm fellowship among all the believers,[c] 34-35 and no poverty—for all who owned land or houses sold them and brought the money to the apostles to give to others in need.

36 For instance, there was Joseph (the one the apostles nicknamed “Barnabas, the encourager.” He was of the tribe of Levi, from the island of Cyprus). 37 He was one of those who sold a field he owned and brought the money to the apostles for distribution to those in need.

According to British folklore, Peter never used a sword again and Joseph of Arimathea took the sword to Britain (it is one of the justifications Henry VII used to separate the Church of England from the Catholic Church - they claim the church started in England before it started in Rome).

For the Apostles to be New Deal Democrats, they would have petitioned Pilate to take Barnabas's field and give the proceeds to the poor whether Barnabas agreed or not. The Apostles' lifestyle was socialist, but it was also voluntary.

If the Apostles were modern day Democrats, they would be deeply suspicious of any public expression of religion, and demand that Pilate force the Jews to pay for the condoms used at Roman orgies.

If the Apostles were modern day Democrats, they would have stripped Paul of his apostleship for his writings about homosexuality in Romans chapter 1.

I would think the idea of the apostles being like modern political lying cocksuckers of either side would be offensive.

Sounds to me that they were more like communists, but I realize that idea wouldn't play very well to the masses these days...

aTm wrote:I would think the idea of the apostles being like modern political lying cocksuckers of either side would be offensive.

Just b/c something is offensive doesn't mean it's not true...

Sounds to me that they were more like communists

I pretty much agree. In Orthodoxy we still have plenty of centers of voluntary communism. We call them monasteries and convents. The monks and the nuns who practice that apostolic lifestyle are our most respected spiritual role models.

I believe Stalin was a novitiate in one of the orders early on...

Too bad the priests in charge didn't believe in purging potential enemies. Big mistake.

aTm wrote:Too bad the priests in charge didn't believe in purging potential enemies. Big mistake.

They did. He slipped through the cracks.

hedge wrote:I believe Stalin was a novitiate in one of the orders early on...

I think that is correct.

By the way, hedge, I stopped by the religion thread and addressed your question there.