The Goat Pen

It'd be great to get back to the non-partisan era of 2001-2008, when democrats, NBC, CBS, ABC, NYT, WP, 60 Minutes, NPR, LA Times, the Sierra Club, and Dan Rather were in charge of sour grapes and rhetoric. Pining for the past gets us nowhere. Long live accountability! Blame Bush/AGW, 6 years and counting.

Yes, of course the dems were doing then what the repubs are now. The two parties are one in the same. And, the dem caterwauling then was as effective as the repub caterwauling is now.

Thanks, just needed someone to confirm that all I'm doing is holding up a mirror to my fellow posters for them to see what it's like.


of course the dems were doing then what the repubs are now


.....dems and their media partners.

Toemeesleather wrote:Thanks, just needed someone to confirm that all I'm doing is holding up a mirror to my fellow posters for them to see what it's like.


of course the dems were doing then what the repubs are now


.....dems and their media partners.

Unlike Fox News, Bloomberg, WSJ, Barron's, Washington Times, Drudge, NewsMax, National Review, Sierra News . . .

Here's what the University of Michigan reported:

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-liberalmedia.htm


The U.S. media are rapidly being monopolized by a dwindling number of parent corporations, all of whom have conservative economic agendas. The media are also critically dependent upon corporations for advertising. As a result, the news almost completely ignores corporate crime, as well as pro-labor and pro-consumer issues. Surveys of journalists show that the majority were personally liberal in the 1980s, but today they are centrists, with more conservatives than liberals on economic issues. However, no study has proven that they give their personal bias to the news. On the other hand, the political spectrum of pundits -- who do engage in noisy editorializing -- leans heavily to the right. The most extreme example of this is talk radio, where liberals are almost nonexistent. The Fairness Doctrine was designed to prevent one-sided bias in the media by requiring broadcasters to air opposing views. It once enjoyed the broad support of both liberals and conservatives. But now that the media have become increasingly owned and controlled by corporations, conservatives defiantly oppose the Fairness Doctrine. This is probably the best proof that the media's bias is conservative, not liberal.

Unlike Fox News, Bloomberg, WSJ, Barron's, Washington Times, Drudge, NewsMax, National Review, Sierra News . . .


LMAO, nobody says Fox News is unbiased, but anyone w/any math skills whatsoever can see the imbalance, especially on the video/TV side(where the dems get most of their sheep). The whole reason for the creation of Fox and talk radio was due to the overwhelming dominance of liberal slant prior to their creation.


Oh...and the Fairness Doctrine.....c'mon, open your eyes.

talk radio, where liberals are almost nonexistent.

Not that they haven't tried.....and failed.

rip soon lib radio... sooner is better!

If you're the free market capitalist you claim to be, you'd believe that the media reflects the preference of the audience. Anybody is free to tune into whatever media source they want. If more people tuned into Fox News (etc), there would be more of that type, just like the example you used for talk radio. It's not a conspiracy, it's the will of the people. People vote with their eyes...

"Thanks, just needed someone to confirm that all I'm doing is holding up a mirror to my fellow posters for them to see what it's like."

I wish you'd look into a mirror and see the barrel of a pistol pointing at you...

hedge wrote:If you're the free market capitalist you claim to be, you'd believe that the media reflects the preference of the audience. Anybody is free to tune into whatever media source they want. If more people tuned into Fox News (etc), there would be more of that type, just like the example you used for talk radio. It's not a conspiracy, it's the will of the people. People vote with their eyes...

Meanwhile, Fox News Channel has now reached 146 consecutive months at No. 1 in total viewers, in both total day and primetime, among cable news networks, and is for February the only cable network up in both total viewers and the demo compared to last February. In all of cable, Fox News ranked third in primetime (8-11 PM) – behind USA Network and History – and fifth for total day. Meanwhile, neither CNN or MSNBC were able to crack the top 20 in either daypart. CNN ranked 39th in prime and 34th in today day; MSNBC 26th in prime and 27th in total day. Every hour of the day, Fox News dominated CNN and MSNBC combined in total viewers. It also beat both networks in the news demo.


Soooo, what's keeping CNN on the air?

Old white people watch cable tv. Old white people tend to be conservative so FoxNews does well.

Young, more liberal people are using the net and newer forms of media. Bragging about dominance of the cable news viewership is increasingly like bragging about owning the AM Radio market. Kudos to Rush and Hannity for their strong influence over the 68-75 year old white man demographic.

No one under 50 listens to the fucking radio.

Hopey, changey.

Dr. Strangelove wrote:Old white people watch cable tv. Old white people tend to be conservative so FoxNews does well.

Young, more liberal people are using the net and newer forms of media. Bragging about dominance of the cable news viewership is increasingly like bragging about owning the AM Radio market. Kudos to Rush and Hannity for their strong influence over the 68-75 year old white man demographic.

No one under 50 listens to the fucking radio.

How do the younger voters get their news during zombie apocalypse videogame marathons?

Professor Tiger wrote:

Dr. Strangelove wrote:Old white people watch cable tv. Old white people tend to be conservative so FoxNews does well.

Young, more liberal people are using the net and newer forms of media. Bragging about dominance of the cable news viewership is increasingly like bragging about owning the AM Radio market. Kudos to Rush and Hannity for their strong influence over the 68-75 year old white man demographic.

No one under 50 listens to the fucking radio.

How do the younger voters get their news during zombie apocalypse videogame marathons?

Twitter, IG and FB posts on their smartphones.

"Fox News dominated CNN and MSNBC combined in total viewers. It also beat both networks in the news demo."

Then why do you keep whining like a pussy about the domination of the liberal media? I mean, besides the fact that you're a pussy?

Johnette's Daddy wrote:

Professor Tiger wrote:

Dr. Strangelove wrote:Old white people watch cable tv. Old white people tend to be conservative so FoxNews does well.

Young, more liberal people are using the net and newer forms of media. Bragging about dominance of the cable news viewership is increasingly like bragging about owning the AM Radio market. Kudos to Rush and Hannity for their strong influence over the 68-75 year old white man demographic.

No one under 50 listens to the fucking radio.

How do the younger voters get their news during zombie apocalypse videogame marathons?

Twitter, IG and FB posts on their smartphones.

The Daily Show

Historically, complaints of media bias are a useful and more discreet shorthand for a myriad of things the typical rwnj can't abide. Notables include

• Godlessness
  red menace
  one world gubment
  international jewry
  mongrelization
  feminism
  abortion

Mongerlization!

How do the younger voters get their news during zombie apocalypse videogame marathons?

Twitter, IG and FB posts on their smartphones.

The Daily Show

Heh. All of the above.

bluetick wrote:Historically, complaints of media bias are a useful and more discreet shorthand for a myriad of things the typical rwnj can't abide. Notables include

• Godlessness
  red menace
  one world gubment
  international jewry
  mongrelization
  feminism
  abortion

I would remove international Jewry from that list. Conservatives - especially the evangelical ones - hold Jews in very high regard as God's first chosen people. These days, liberals tend to be more hostile toward Jews than conservatives. That's because most liberals apply their famous guilt/sympathy towards Palestinians and see Israel as oppressors.