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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:42 am
by Jungle Rat
Duh.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:07 am
by Toemeesleather
Between dim senators putting on a dog and pony show about AGW and Brock dictating that companies pay overtime to salaried workers, it's hard to tell who is more sad and desperate in the face of upcoming elections.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:14 am
by Professor Tiger
The Dem's are probably more sad and desperate than the R's because it looks like the Dem's might lose the Senate.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:38 am
by hedge
Nice tile work on that floor...
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:50 pm
by Professor Tiger
Toemeesleather wrote:Between dim senators putting on a dog and pony show about AGW and Brock dictating that companies pay overtime to salaried workers, it's hard to tell who is more sad and desperate in the face of upcoming elections.
Reminds me of this:
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:53 pm
by Toemeesleather
Cept Homer's samrter.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:29 am
by BigRedMan
So there acronym is S C A T?
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:10 pm
by gule
lol!
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:03 pm
by Toemeesleather
Where ya been gule?
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:32 am
by 10ac
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:59 pm
by bluetick
Heh. A dem senator holds up a "save the planet" sign and it ruins some of your's day.
Meanwhile, Sen. Grandpa John McWarpants keeps ranting Cold War slogans at microphones when he's not re-stocking his backyard atom bomb shelter.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:05 pm
by bluetick
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:23 pm
by Toemeesleather
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:13 pm
by Dr. Strangelove
The announced sanctions thus far are a joke.
"These 11 people (none of them Putin, btw) are no longer welcome to shop in the US and we're totally freezing their assets (for the next 6 months)".
Turn on the pipelines and let nat gas flow to Europe!!!
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:16 pm
by 10ac
The announced sanctions thus far are a joke.
Just wait til Putin crosses the 'red line'.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:56 am
by Toemeesleather
Speaking from both sides of the mouth is biting some folks in the arse, big time. Karma, a wonderful thing.
A split is growing in the Democratic Party, one that ought to rival the divisions on the right that the headlines trumpet. Greens are increasingly bitter about President Obama —annoyed that he's dropped climate legislation, scaled back green subsidies, ignored fracking. They've channeled their frustration into the fight against Keystone, warning that they'll turn their significant money and resources against Mr. Obama's party if the president approves more "dirty oil." Since this president cares about nothing so much as winning elections, he's sat on the pipeline for five years.
Emboldened, the eco-warriors are now dramatically upping the stakes, demanding that Democrats turn against the natural-gas revolution that has propped up the Obama economy. More than a thousand activists flooded last month to a Keystone-like rally protesting Cove Point, a Maryland facility that is due to be the first to export liquefied natural gas. The Ukraine crisis and calls for greater gas exports have given the issue a big new lift. On Wednesday 16 prominent green groups sent an open letter to Mr. Obama demanding he essentially shut down Cove Point.
The letter was revealing for its honesty. Not so long ago enviros endorsed natural gas as a cleaner alternative to coal or oil. Most limited themselves to calling for "better" industry practices, or to solely opposing exports. But as the gas rush has grown, threatening their solar-and-windmill nirvana, greens now openly decry drilling, chiding Mr. Obama for his "support for hydraulic fracturing" and calling on him to keep "our nation's fossil fuel reserves in the ground." The letter was signed by Bill McKibben, the director of the anti-Keystone outfit 350.org, as well as directors of nearly every major green shop in the country—the Sierra Club, the Center for Biological Diversity, CREDO and Earthjustice.
This new demand could not come at a more awkward time for the party. Under fire for ObamaCare and the economy, scores of vulnerable Democrats are rushing to natural gas and drilling as political safe harbors. Supporting fracking allows them to claim they are in favor of more jobs, cheaper energy and rising incomes. Supporting natural-gas exports allows them to look responsive to the Ukraine crisis, or at least more responsive than their unpopular president. It helps, too, that this puts them on the same page as the significant majority of Americans who support more drilling (and pipelines).
Red-state senate Democrats like Mary Landrieu (La.) and Mark Pryor (Ark.) are these days fighting for pro-energy airtime with colleagues like Colorado's Mark Udall. Mr. Udall, who can usually be found pushing a federal renewable energy mandate, now finds himself facing a likely challenge from Rep. Cory Gardner —as pro-energy a Republican as they come. When the Ukraine crisis began, Mr. Udall suddenly couldn't move quickly enough to introduce a bill to expand the number of countries to which the U.S. can export natural gas. A Udall spokesman publicly bragged that they'd got their own bill introduced before Mr. Gardner introduced his own.
Virginia Sen. Mark Warner, who just loves solar, wind and biofuels, but who is also facing an electoral threat from Republican Ed Gillespie, materialized on Wednesday to demand that the Obama Energy Department greenlight more gas export terminals. New Mexico's Tom Udall has embraced more exports, tying it directly to his state's drilling jobs. With all this Democratic love for natural gas, Ms. Landrieu was hard pressed to get attention for her own announcement that she is devoting her first hearing as new chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee to the benefits of more oil and gas exports.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:24 am
by hedge
What's wrong with solar, wind and biofuels?
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:42 am
by Professor Tiger
They would die a quick death without massive government subsidies.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:07 am
by bluetick
Professor Tiger wrote:They would die a quick death without massive government subsidies.
I guess you're right.
Btw, half of American farms would have gone by the wayside without gubmint subsidies. Do you have something against food on the table?
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:16 am
by Professor Tiger
I am opposed to all government ag subsidies except the two I currently receive.