The Goat Pen

bluetick wrote:A) not sure why you cherrypicked NYC stats, and

B)

"Body cameras are great, but if cops feel handcuffed in their ability to serve the public while protecting their lives, they aren't going to choose serving the public."

You're not saying body cams and dashcams hinder cops from serving the public, right? Seems like the best way to counter a fake police-brutality charge would be a video. Good/honest cops surely wouldn't mind. Plus you can use the vids for training and grading purposes and the like. Win win win

your focus is on the lives that cops take, but you ignore the lives that cops save. If a body cam creates an environment where for example a cop will now ignore a plea to harass drug dealers hanging out on a stoop, or gang bangers driving circles around a neighborhood block because BLM has created an environment of police not wanted to get litigating or labeled for profiling for that unfortunate time when they stop the wrong guy or hassle the wrong kid, then that is doing a disservice to the black community as a whole. I believe there is going to an increase in black lives lost - if we haven't seen it already due to the adverse effects of BLM on the police.

And I contend that BLM really isn't about saving black lives, because if you look at statistics, greater police enforcement in the African American community has resulted in a huge number of saved lives (compare those cherry picked homicide numbers in New York in the early 1990's to the numbers now and then read why those numbers have dropped) and its more about a cops hassling African Americans in African American communities.

I'm not against body cams but if the goal here is to stop police profiling then the price paid is going to be an increase in black on black crime.

If a cop is in a situation where he thinks his life is in danger, he's not going to give a damn whether he has a body cam or not, he's going to shoot and make sure he goes home to his family that night. That situation has nothing to do with being good or honest. I also don't think that if a white cops shoots a black man and there is cell phone video of it, what a body cam shows or doesn't show is going to make a damn bit of difference to the people outraged by it.


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In one of two reports released by the Department of Justice on Wednesday, federal investigators opted against charging Ferguson Police officer Darren Wilson with a federal crime for the Aug. 9 shooting of Michael Brown, an unarmed 18-year-old.

That report comes on the same day that the Justice Department unleashed a scathing review of the Ferguson Police Department, which concluded that even if the Brown case was not racially motivated, the department utilized racially discriminatory tactics and that police supervisors used taxpayer-funded e-mail to send racist jokes.

The broader report validates many of the complaints voiced by hundreds of protesters who took to the streets in Ferguson. But the more specific report does undermine what has become their rallying cry.

Based on several eyewitness accounts, many protesters adopted “Hands up, don’t shoot!” as a rallying cry. However, investigators from the Justice Department found that many of those witnesses were not credible. Brown likely did not have his hands up when Wilson shot and killed him, investigators concluded.

I don't understand the scope of this but reading the article, how in the world did employees think they were going to get away with moving money from a customers account to open another one to the extent they had insufficient fund fees, etc., kicking in?


http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/08/investi ... index.html

I read about some guy who hacked into some bank's computer system and set it up so that a few cents were taken out of everybody's account and deposited into his. Seems like a good idea in that nobody is going to notice (or care) about 25 cents missing from their account, but it seems like they would catch it on the other side, i.e., 100,000 deposits of less than a dollar...

more amazing is that at least 5300 employees did it

that's not a rogue employee or team - that's a culture that is defined by management

kinda like the VA providing a bonus for the number of patients processed without validating the quality of care.

hedge wrote:I read about some guy who hacked into some bank's computer system and set it up so that a few cents were taken out of everybody's account and deposited into his. Seems like a good idea in that nobody is going to notice (or care) about 25 cents missing from their account, but it seems like they would catch it on the other side, i.e., 100,000 deposits of less than a dollar...

There was a really good documentary made about this. It was called "Office Space". You should check it out.

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"There was a really good documentary made about this. It was called "Office Space". You should check it out."

Actually, it was a young guy in prison with me who told me that that was what he was in for. This was circa 1990. I kinda thought he was full of shit, but it was an interesting idea...

watched a pryor movie last night

never realized he was inspired to pour Bacardi 151 and light himself on fire while watching the buddhist priest in vietnam emoliate himself. shooting crack is a hellluva thing

and how he went into his real tailspin when blazing saddles part got given to cleavon little when he wrote much of it

If my wife was pregnant in Florida, I'd find a relative to send her ass to up North until the baby was born

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From bad to much worse: Not only are locally-acquired Zika cases growing in Florida, but 84 pregnant women have tested positive for the virus in the state, including at least 15 who've already given birth, say health officials. It isn't clear how many of those pregnancies had complications, but doctors have confirmed that a baby was born with microcephaly at Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami, reports WPLG. Excluding the pregnant women, officials say 56 people have contracted the virus in Florida, mostly in Miami-Dade County, per WJXT. There are another 604 travel-related cases in the state. "Zika is a thing. Zika is real, and while we don't understand it fully, that is not a reason to dismiss its impact," says a local doctor.

Unfortunately Philadelphia will not be

The energy sector needs to change...and that change may be painful in stretches. It is ironic that the woman said she is voting for self-preservation. I guess it's just a matter of perspective and time horizon.

Yeah, choosing between livelihood and 2 degrees over 100 years was obvious choice for her.

this is total horseshit

your tax dollars at work

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/13/politics/ ... t-surgery/

Sexist!

it won't happen in North Carolina!

It's a federal prison.

sardis wrote:Yeah, choosing between livelihood and 2 degrees over 100 years was obvious choice for her.

We both know that the impact is greater than simply this...and the effects of small change greatly impact our oceans and coasts.

Bklyn wrote:

sardis wrote:Yeah, choosing between livelihood and 2 degrees over 100 years was obvious choice for her.

We both know that the impact is greater than simply this...and the effects of small change greatly impact our oceans and coasts.

Except Sardis thinks it's all hoax. It's in the bible or something.