The Goat Pen

Irregardless of the spelling of the wielder's name, I'd like to see a razor applied to your jugular vein...

my solution is to have a death board

lung cancer/copd in people who continue to smoke/renal failure in patients with multiple other issues/metastatic pancreatic and liver cancers all have generally less then a year and all we do is throw millions of dollars in a futile effert to give senile grandpa another month to shad all over himself.

I would also encourage hedge to read the multiple posts regarding his health and do the right thing

Agree, especially the last paragraph.

I can supply the method.

"lung cancer/copd in people who continue to smoke/renal failure in patients with multiple other issues/metastatic pancreatic and liver cancers all have generally less then a year and all we do is throw millions of dollars in a futile effert to give senile grandpa another month to shad all over himself."

In theory I agree, but as we all know when it's someone close to you, those considerations go out the door. I have pretty well determined that I am going to commit suicide (that's your cue, Rat) if I ever get to that point. I am well familiar with a very painless (indeed, very pleasant) method, but I have also toyed with the idea of fasting to death. I think that would be interesting. Also sepekku (sp?), the japanese method of suicide by disembowelment. That would hurt pretty bad, but everybody would think it was cool as shit...

Speaking of the method I have in mind, here is something I've posted in here before, regarding the death of King George V:

"By 20 January, he was close to death. His physicians, led by Lord Dawson of Penn, issued a bulletin with words that became famous: "The King's life is moving peacefully towards its close." Dawson's private diary, unearthed after his death and made public in 1986, reveals that the King's last words, a mumbled "God damn you!", were addressed to his nurse, Catherine Black, when she gave him a sedative on the night of 20 January. Dawson wrote that he hastened the King's death by injecting him with a lethal combination of morphine and cocaine. Dawson noted that he acted to preserve the King's dignity, to prevent further strain on the family, and so that the King's death at 11:55 p.m. could be announced in the morning edition of The Times newspaper rather than "less appropriate ... evening journals"."

Please don't commit suicide. That's just horrible no matter what. And selfish.

Let me shoot you in the head instead.

"I am well familiar with a very painless (indeed, very pleasant)"

always thought propofol would be the way to go not sure how pleasant it would be

when I start becoming a burden for somebody else I'd have to think hard about it

Hospice always provides plenty of morphine.

Not cocaine, though...

They gave me propofol when I had my colonoscopy, it was remarkably like a strong narcotic, except you just kept going down and down and then out, and pretty quickly. Kinda like a heroin OD. I'm sure the propofol would do the trick if you were trying to off yourself, but too fast. What the hell, if you're fixing to die, you might as well enjoy it. Thus the cocaine in George's cocktail...

never had propofol - always assumed that sort of thing required versed

I'm getting another dose of on the 16th.

crashcourse wrote:my solution is to have a death board

lung cancer/copd in people who continue to smoke/renal failure in patients with multiple other issues/metastatic pancreatic and liver cancers all have generally less then a year and all we do is throw millions of dollars in a futile effert to give senile grandpa another month to shad all over himself.

I would also encourage hedge to read the multiple posts regarding his health and do the right thing

Currently the Right to Death (aka Death with Dignity/Self-or-Assisted Checkout) states are Oregon (1999), Washington (2007), Vermont (2013), and California (last month). Look for more states to jump on the voluntary death bandwagon as religious objections wane and the humanitarian and financial benefits take precedent.

In before

"I wish you'd get run over by a procession of bandwagons."

bluetick wrote:

crashcourse wrote:my solution is to have a death board

lung cancer/copd in people who continue to smoke/renal failure in patients with multiple other issues/metastatic pancreatic and liver cancers all have generally less then a year and all we do is throw millions of dollars in a futile effert to give senile grandpa another month to shad all over himself.

I would also encourage hedge to read the multiple posts regarding his health and do the right thing

Currently the Right to Death (aka Death with Dignity/Self-or-Assisted Checkout) states are Oregon (1999), Washington (2007), Vermont (2013), and California (last month). Look for more states to jump on the voluntary death bandwagon as religious objections wane and the humanitarian and financial benefits take precedent.

there is little dignity in an elderly death..that said, I hope we never put financial considerations (more so than we do now) as a factor on determining end of life.

It would look bad and they'd never do it, but if they came up with some kind of tax break or stipend that you could leave to your heirs based on the estimated amount it would save Medicare (or whoever) if you checked out early vs. if you held on to the bitter end, I bet a lot more people would do it...

crashcourse wrote:"I am well familiar with a very painless (indeed, very pleasant)"

always thought propofol would be the way to go not sure how pleasant it would be

when I start becoming a burden for somebody else I'd have to think hard about it

You're not thinking hard enough.

I see what you did there

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