The Goat Pen

Hurricane Obamacare is nowhere near complete in terms of damage it will do to the economy or trust in the next dem. Whether it's the PAH or not, they will have to answer to the Hurricane and it's effect in '16.

Thing is, she has a huge lead NOW and she hasn't lifted a finger or batted an eye. She has a huge lead and she hasn't tapped a dime from what'll be the biggest war chest ever conceived. Umm..think people might be ready for a third Clinton term after what has transpired the last 13 years? Any doubts that the mainstream media won't coronate her early, often, and late? She'll steamroll 270 electorals before the networks are out of the family hour.

2016 will be an epic beatdown...truly one for the books.

The latest ABC News-Washington Post poll has Christie in third place - with the support of 13 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents - behind Rep. Paul Ryan with 20 percent and former Florida governor Jeb Bush at 18 percent. The rest of the scattered pack includes Sens. Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Marco Rubio, who are at 12, 11, and 10 percent, respectively.

Epic.

Yep, we've reached the tipping point. It's all down hill from here.

On a lighter note: http://news.yahoo.com/iraqi-militants-a ... 52321.html

LMAO

" Paul Ryan with 20 percent"

Good lord. If the 'Pubs nominate that mewling little nerd, they deserve whatever they get...

bluetick wrote:The latest ABC News-Washington Post poll has Christie in third place - with the support of 13 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents - behind Rep. Paul Ryan with 20 percent and former Florida governor Jeb Bush at 18 percent. The rest of the scattered pack includes Sens. Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Marco Rubio, who are at 12, 11, and 10 percent, respectively.

Epic.

The scary part for the GOP is that the Asian & Latino numbers for 2008/12 mirror the black numbers in 1956/60 - significant, but not ridiculous. In 1964 the GOP ran nut job Goldwater, 95% of blacks voted Democratic and have never been under 85% since. If the GOP runs a racist/misogynist/Bircher - which is basically most of the guys they're talking about now, Asians and Latinos will become a permanent 85%+ for Dems, as well.

In a situation where the percentage of white voters shrinks by 1%-2% every cycle, can the GOP expect to survive by conceding 90% of the non-white vote?

If the GOP runs a racist/misogynist/Bircher - which is basically most of the guys they're talking about now, Asians and Latinos will become a permanent 85%+ for Dems, as well.

The description "racist/misogynist/Bircher" is a bit overstated. Cruz comes the closest. It doesn't describe Ryan, Bush or Rubio at all.

But I agree with the broader point that the GOP had better play nice with Hispanics or court long term disaster. The cooler heads in the GOP know this, which is why many of them (including ALL the Establishment-approved ones) are desperately trying to find a way to grant them legal status.

Hispanics (especially the recently arrived ones) could have become an R constituency rather than a Dem one. They tend to be very devout Catholics, whereas the Dem's are openly hostile to Catholicism (as well as all religion except Islam). Hispanics tend to prize the traditional family, whereas the Dem's do not. Hispanics tend to work their butts off to create their own private sector wealth and dream of starting their own businesses. The Dem's are much more passionate about redistributing wealth rather than creating it.

But I agree that a lot of R's have been dreaming out loud of deporting all 15 million of them, and that has taken its toll. Despite some GOP delusions of mass deportations, illegals aren't going anywhere. Even if they don't vote, their large number of children and huge number of grandchildren, will. The more they gather around the dinner table and Mamacita tells her children, "The Republicanos? They're the ones that tried to send Abuelo and Abuelita back to Mexico. They are very mean. Don't vote for them, ninos." the R's are toast.

Any doubts that the mainstream media won't coronate her early, often, and late?

heh. I've been trying to find the SNL spoof of the Hillary vs. Obama debates. They weren't much of an exaggeration. For that brief moment, Hillary discovered what it's like to be a Republican 24/7/365.

"Hispanics (especially the recently arrived ones) could have become an R constituency rather than a Dem one. They tend to be very devout Catholics, whereas the Dem's are openly hostile to Catholicism (as well as all religion except Islam). Hispanics tend to prize the traditional family, whereas the Dem's do not. Hispanics tend to work their butts off to create their own private sector wealth and dream of starting their own businesses. The Dem's are much more passionate about redistributing wealth rather than creating it.

But I agree that a lot of R's have been dreaming out loud of deporting all 15 million of them, and that has taken its toll. Despite some GOP delusions of mass deportations, illegals aren't going anywhere. Even if they don't vote, their large number of children and huge number of grandchildren, will. The more they gather around the dinner table and Mamacita tells her children, "The Republicanos? They're the ones that tried to send Abuelo and Abuelita back to Mexico. They are very mean. Don't vote for them, ninos." the R's are toast."

So, based on your assessment, you're saying Hispanics are stupid as hell. Yeah, that's the way to attract em...

No, I'm not saying that at all.

I'm simply saying that if a big part of the GOP remains as obsessed with deporting millions of illegal aliens, they and their descendants will not like that obsession and will vote accordingly. To a degree, I don't blame them.

Just to a degree? If what you say is correct and a big part of the GOP wants to deport them, to what degree COULD you blame them for not voting GOP?? To the degree that the GOP is, e.g., anti-abortion? Whoop tee do. What good is GOP-mandated changes in American law if they're sitting in Mexico?

Simply put, hispanics are nacho average gop voter. Too flighty...here today, gone tamale.

nod to psa

They were handing out government cheese and two guys broke in line and stole some and took off running. They ducked into an alley and started eating it. One guy said "This is some good nacho cheese", the other guy says "how do you know it's nacho cheese?" and the first guy says "the guy I broke in front of started chasing me and he was yelling "Hey, that's nacho cheese!!"

http://www.infowars.com/homeland-securi ... iper-ammo/

What's going on?

there's nothing to see here, move along

Maybe we can outsource the Presidency to the Canadian PM...

http://news.yahoo.com/canadian-governme ... NlYwNzcg--

I wonder how much is being spent on their "military".

If we could balance the budget outside of military spending, I'd be in hog heaven.

10ac wrote:http://www.infowars.com/homeland-securi ... iper-ammo/

What's going on?

The posts from the looney-tunes who follow this site are 2 parts hysterical and 1 part scary.