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Post by GBJs » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:11 pm

I saw that. ESPN had a video at the GA campus with Foster. I can't find the video now but Foster says he's still 100% Alabama, just enjoying the visits with his friends and expects to still visit USCw.
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Post by GBJs » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:12 pm

Speaking of GA recruits, looks like Alabama is the new leader for this guy...

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/07 ... recruiting
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Post by GBJs » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:15 pm

Add that to Lacy and Fowler and Yeldon and well, I'll stop...don't wanna be a bragart.
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Post by Professor Tiger » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:44 pm

You guys should go back to the old wishbone. Otherwise, some of those tremendously talented RB"s will get tired of riding the bench until their senior year.
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Post by Professor Tiger » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:15 am

Or better yet, y'all should switch to a one-back offense. Let your platoon of 5-star RB's collect cobwebs.
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Post by GBJs » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:29 pm

We run a lot of single back sets... but we keep changing them out.

...Trent spells Mark spells Eddie spells Jahlston....
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GBJs wrote:We run a lot of single back sets... but we keep changing them out.

...Trent spells Mark spells Eddie spells Jahlston....
I'm totally in favor of that arrangement. If you've got 5 great backs, and you do, that means 4 out of the 5 are sitting and watching instead of playing. They'll spend a lot of time pondering the fact that they could have been the full-time feature back at Tennessee, Florida, South Carolina, racking up 1,000 yard seasons, earning ooh's and ahh's from the NFL scouts. They'll also be wondering how their careers consisting of 300 yard seasons at Alabama will ever get them into the NFL.
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Speaking of great UA backs, rumor is that Dee Hart is failing to meet The Saban's performance expectations and is being processed. Will it be the usual medical hardship?
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Post by AlabamAlum » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:35 pm

Someone has been to The Bunker again. Pity. Anyway... If Dee leaves, he leaves. I think Saban's two first round running backs over the last couple of years speak more loudly to incoming bluechippers than a running back who couldnt stand the heat leaving Bama and going to a lesser program like North Alabama or Auburn.

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Post by GBJs » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:24 pm

Professor Tiger wrote:
GBJs wrote:We run a lot of single back sets... but we keep changing them out.

...Trent spells Mark spells Eddie spells Jahlston....
I'm totally in favor of that arrangement. If you've got 5 great backs, and you do, that means 4 out of the 5 are sitting and watching instead of playing. They'll spend a lot of time pondering the fact that they could have been the full-time feature back at Tennessee, Florida, South Carolina, racking up 1,000 yard seasons, earning ooh's and ahh's from the NFL scouts. They'll also be wondering how their careers consisting of 300 yard seasons at Alabama will ever get them into the NFL.

Trent Richardson 283 1679

Eddie Lacy 95 674

Jalston Fowler 56 385

No more than Jalston played, he still nearly broke 400 yards. You must be thinking of the running backs at Auburn. Was Frazier running for his life on scrambles?

Michael Dyer 242 1242

Onterio McCalebb 112 641

Kiehl Frazier 76 327
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Post by GBJs » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:31 pm

Professor Tiger wrote:Speaking of great UA backs, rumor is that Dee Hart is failing to meet The Saban's performance expectations and is being processed. Will it be the usual medical hardship?
If he's not meeting performance expectations, he's GOT to be failing in his physical therapy... He hasn't played a down yet.
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Post by Professor Tiger » Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:03 pm

Someone has been to The Bunker again. Pity.
I've never visited this "Bunker" you often refer to.
Eddie Lacy 95 674
Jalston Fowler 56 385
I'm sure the pro scouts are wowed by stats like that.
I think Saban's two first round running backs over the last couple of years speak more loudly to incoming bluechippers
Nobody is questioning The Saban's ability to bring in bluechip RB's. He does that better than anybody I know. What remains to be seen is how all those five star RB recruits will react to spending most of their careers on the bench and have 400 yard seasons to show the NFL scouts, like Fowler. And that's assuming they escape one of Saban's medical redshirts.
Onterio McCalebb 112 641
Heh. NOBODY at Auburn thinks skinny little O-Mac has a prayer of making it to the NFL. And BTW, Frazier is a QB, not a RB. Little difference there.
Speaking of highly ranked RBs jumping ship, I heard that Michael Dyer was denied his waiver at Arkie Lite.
That was big news a couple of days ago.
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Post by AlabamAlum » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:07 am

Jalston was a 4-star FB, not a 5- star RB. He was not even nationally ranked as a RB, but was 21st as a fullback. He runs a 4.8, and before Bama, had offers from SoCarolina, Marshall and South Alabama. Besides the 4.8, why didn't he get a lotta love? Not many offenses use a FB anymore. He took the Bama offer and has done well for himself.

Dee was a 5-star who stripped his knee out. If he's well, he'll be given the opportunity to play. If he's not, he won't. If he can't perform at a level to win ball games, he's not gonna get a ton of PT no matter how many stars he had in HS. Padding his college stats for a NFL scout is not a consideration.

Your insinuation about medical redshirts is unfounded. The only Saban player who ever hung up the med RS and played was a DLineman with a heart problem that was not cleared to play by cardiologists at DCH, UAB, and the Mayo Clinic. The kid got his family doctor to sign the note and only Stillman would take a chance at the timebomb.

Auburn, of late, has been recruiting well. Worry about your stars bolting for other teams so that they can get to the League. But it is rather precious that you wind yourself up worrying about Bama players not having a good enough resume' to make the NFL. Consideting the number of 1st round picks we've had the last few years. Who has had more since 2009?
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Post by Professor Tiger » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:07 pm

Auburn, of late, has been recruiting well. Worry about your stars bolting for other teams so that they can get to the League.
We don't worry about that. We worry more about our stars bolting just before they sign with us, like Calloway and Yeldon. Half of us expect Dee Liner to be the next.
But it is rather precious that you wind yourself up worrying about Bama players not having a good enough resume' to make the NFL.
Worried about Bama players not having a good enough resume' to make the NFL? No. Grateful that most of those fabulous RB's will be on the bench (or backup DB's or processed out your back door) and rarely on the field running against us? Probably.
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Post by Professor Tiger » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:25 pm

Your insinuation about medical redshirts is unfounded. The only Saban player who ever hung up the med RS and played was a DLineman with a heart problem that was not cleared to play by cardiologists at DCH, UAB, and the Mayo Clinic. The kid got his family doctor to sign the note and only Stillman would take a chance at the timebomb.
Um, I think there was a little bit more to Saban's fondness for medical redshirts than that:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 51306.html
Former Alabama football players say the school's No. 1-ranked football program has tried to gain a competitive edge by encouraging some underperforming players to quit the team for medical reasons, even in cases where the players are still healthy enough to play.

At least 12 times since coach Nick Saban took over the program in 2007, Alabama has offered players a "medical" scholarship, according to public statements made by the team. These scholarships, which are allowed under NCAA rules, are intended to make sure scholarship athletes who are too injured to play don't lose their financial aid. A player who receives one of these scholarships is finished playing with that team.

Three Alabama players who've taken these exemptions say they believe the team uses the practice as a way to clear spots for better players by cutting players it no longer wants. These players said they believe Mr. Saban and his staff pressure some players to take these scholarships even though their injuries aren't serious enough to warrant keeping them off the field.
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Post by AlabamAlum » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:25 pm

The WSJ article was EXACTLY what I was referencing. It was horrible, yellow journalism, and the WSJ drew some fire because if it. First, there wasn't three players, there was one and his name was Charlie Kirschman. Did he xfer and play elsewhere? No.

(1) None of these kids cleared their physical. I know all of the Bama team physicians. None would rule a kid unfit because Saban said so. Even if you don't believe me, at Alabama, they're given the option of a second opinion. Three did (which is where the writer made the leap that Saban did it to clear space). One was even given a third opinion. He failed that, too.

(2) Of the 12 players only ONE went elsewhere and played. He was the kid with the heart condition I mentioned above.

(3) "But Saban did this to clear spots." wrong. He doesn't have to go through the trouble of bribing or intimidating doctors to clears spots. No, if he wants to get rid of a kid, all he has to is say, "Hey Jones. I'm not renewing your schollie; clean out your locker."

(4) So, we had one bitter, former player who has said this and you want to take it and run with it? Do you feel the same about the former AU players who went on ESPN during Cam Gate?
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Post by AlabamAlum » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:29 pm

You're better than this, prof. You should apologize and withdraw your statement. You won't, but you should. And you know you should.
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Post by GBJs » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:11 pm

Eddie Lacy 95 674
Jalston Fowler 56 385
I'm sure the pro scouts are wowed by stats like that.
It's Eddie's turn this year. AND he was held back by a turf toe problem last season. Jalston has a falling down when hit problem, needs to lower his shoulder for such a big back but we'll get to see what he's made of this year. Between himself, Dee if healthy, and some kids named Yeldon, we'll see who is Eddie's primary back up. Calloway and Dee will be speed on the edges players...Jalston, Eddie, and Yeldon will run over and through you. We'll eventually have to throw also.

Great problem to have with commits like Tenpenny, hopefully Henry.... 2013 should be pretty darn good too!

And the WSJ article was a weak effort by them. Saban will tell them to STFD. As long as their grades are up he has NOT sent one out that could pass his physical.
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Post by Professor Tiger » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:36 am

The WSJ article was EXACTLY what I was referencing. It was horrible, yellow journalism, and the WSJ drew some fire because if it.
Well, the WSJ is indeed famous for its yellow journalism. It's not like they have the objectivity and integrity of a Danny Sheridan or a Scott Moore.

But is Sports Illustrated also a part of this 9:1 anti-Bama media conspiracy?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/w ... index.html

Please note in advance that I have not read - much less referenced - the Bunker, whatever that is.
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