The Goat Pen

I heard this morning that the Baton Rouge police chief has immediately handed this over to Federal investigators as opposed to trying to investigate it internally.

They attributed that to the recent press , public outrage and the readily accessible, attributable cell phone video that everyone has.

Another shooting is going to get some attention of people - cop in Minneapolis shoots a man who told him he had a weapon, was legally allowed to carry it (CCW permit holder) , was complying and following directions.

He went for his wallet and the cop shot him point blank.

I think it was video taped as well.


That's gonna blow some shit up.

MN guy was number 506 on the list of persons killed by cops in 2016. No big deal really; 17k gun deaths total already, so that 506 is only 3.5% overall. People need to chill and turn off the lamestream media.

And the blacks need to fix their tail lights.

..specially in Chi-town.

bottom line is individual with guns on them don't mix well with police

About those little vials that police use to determine if drugs are found:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/10/magaz ... Email&_r=1

eCat wrote:bottom line is individual with guns on them don't mix well with police

Which gets to conceal and carry laws. It's effectively a law that only applies to some people.

Bklyn wrote:

eCat wrote:bottom line is individual with guns on them don't mix well with police

Which gets to conceal and carry laws. It's effectively a law that only applies to some people.

you guys think because I'm a gun guy, I'm the kind of guy that would get a CCW and carry a gun

I actually believe that if you think you need a gun where you are going in order to do whatever it is you're doing, then you don't need to go there. Really to me thats end of discussion.

I won't say I'll never do it, but I have never carried a gun on me - in a car or in public around people in my life. I've been around gun ranges enough to realize just how incompetent people are with weapons, so I will never feel comfortable knowing the guy next to me at the grocery store , park or movie theater has a gun on him.

3 nights ago, my son had some friends over - young men in their late teens. Without them knowing I discretely took the gun I have hidden , unloaded it and threw it in my wife's panty drawers (I know thats irrelevant but I just wanted to type wife's panty drawers anyways). I just started keeping a loaded gun accessible about a month ago in my house - its the first time I've done that in my life. Until then every gun I owned has been kept in a safe. I wasn't about to let someone elses son have access to a loaded weapon in my house - even if it was hidden and I didn' think they'd see it.

(I do leave the liquor cabinet unlocked though - I may need to rethink that in light of recent admissions by my son)

Toemeesleather wrote:..specially in Chi-town.

Extra credit if you can somehow tie Chicago's gun violence to Comey's hearing before Congress, or Gretchen Carlson's lawsuit against Roger Ailes.

"(I do leave the liquor cabinet unlocked though - I may need to rethink that in light of recent admissions by my son)"

Did we already discuss that?

I was reading up on the gunfight at OK Corral the other day, evidently many of those old west towns did not allow people to carry guns in town. They had more restrictions in the old west than we do today...

hedge wrote:"(I do leave the liquor cabinet unlocked though - I may need to rethink that in light of recent admissions by my son)"

Did we already discuss that?

my 18 year old son has developed a taste for spiced rum. I'm not quite sure how to handle it. I guess knowing he trusts me enough to tell me that he drinks now is a good sign.

hedge wrote:I was reading up on the gunfight at OK Corral the other day, evidently many of those old west towns did not allow people to carry guns in town. They had more restrictions in the old west than we do today...

yea, that's a topic that most second amendment people don't like to touch on.

eCat wrote:
I actually believe that if you think you need a gun where you are going in order to do whatever it is you're doing, then you don't need to go there. Really to me thats end of discussion.

Words to live by.

bluetick wrote:

eCat wrote:
I actually believe that if you think you need a gun where you are going in order to do whatever it is you're doing, then you don't need to go there. Really to me thats end of discussion.

Words to live by.

thats why I don't go to Chi-town

yeah I have a loaded gun glock 9mm on top of an amoire which unless your > 6'6 you would have to use a stepladder. its in a case with magazine next to it ready to lock and load

I also have one of those house alrms that when it goes off it sounds like the tornado siren is literally outside your bedroom --we live out in the boonies a little bit and sure enough the alrm goes off last summer at 3am. I spring out of bed naked as a jay bird flip the light on and being on 5'9 start jumping up and down trying to reach that case up on the amoire. My wife to this day says she has the visual in her mind of her husband naked as a jaybird jumping up and down trying to grab that gun with my scrotum and testilcles bouncing up and down and the siren wailing away at three oclock am --in a very loud voice she asked me what the hell I was doing and I said trying to get my gun. without missing a beat with a perfect Christmas story comeback I heard her tell me 'you'll shoot your nuts off'

anyway grabbed the gun called the sheriff never did find out what set off the alarm other then it was a door we had contact issue with before and haven't had since -I thought I had it closed completely but who knows--its an interior door that doesn't shut unless you completely slam it shut.

the worse part is she tells the story so well now all my family and friends have a fine visual of me jumping up and down and the phrase you'll shoot your nuts off echoes through the room whenever gun issues are brought up

heh that's funny - I bought a gun magnet and mounted it above the threshold of the closet door, so it just holds the gun.

Its a revolver so I told my wife about it and told her if anything happens you just grab and shoot. So she tries to reach it and its so high she can't even jump and get it

apparently that's a common problem

"my 18 year old son has developed a taste for spiced rum."

Spiced rum? That's mighty fancy for an 18 year old. Maybe you should get him a snifter for his birthday...

hedge wrote:I was reading up on the gunfight at OK Corral the other day, evidently many of those old west towns did not allow people to carry guns in town. They had more restrictions in the old west than we do today...

Yeah. Originally, the Bill of Rights (passed in 1791), did not apply to the States but only against the federal govt. Even after the 14th Amendment was passed in 1868, it was ruled in the 1870's (Slaughterhouse) that the Bill of Rights applied only to the feds. States frequently had their own State constitutional violations, but States could even ban guns if they wanted to. Different parts of the Bill of rights were incorporated to apply to the States, but until 2010 (McDonald vs. the City of Chicago), the 2nd Amendment didn't apply to States. 219 years of jurisprudence and understanding changed. (didn't say I disagreed with the decision)

I've been around gun ranges enough to realize just how incompetent people are with weapons, so I will never feel comfortable knowing the guy next to me at the grocery store , park or movie theater has a gun on him.

First day of hunting season in upstate New York was a busy day in the E.R. Invariably, someone or someones would come in shot, occasionally by themselves, but more often by some friend. Usually, alcohol was also involved.

hedge wrote:"my 18 year old son has developed a taste for spiced rum."

Spiced rum? That's mighty fancy for an 18 year old. Maybe you should get him a snifter for his birthday...

is it? I always felt it was pretty basic

but then again at his age I was drinking Boone's Farm and damn happy about it

now I want to have sex with 1983 Kim Littleton. The 2016 version is fat as hell. (She was the one that got me drinking Boones farm)