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Owlman wrote:pretty harsh

Sacramento Baptist pastor praises Orlando massacre

http://www.abc10.com/news/local/sacrame ... /243211965

He obviously dreams about penis.

6:12 mark...

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I"m not sure I think she should be charged

however I think my biggest complaint is the complacency /apathy of the Muslim community to address this problem.

In that light, I can understand the logic to charge her as setting an example of failing to "see something/say something"

But I fully understand a woman being reluctant to turn in her husband

Exactly.

She has to be charged. A North Carolina mom and dad alerted the authorities about their radicalized son setting out to mass killing. Because of them, the authorities were able to stop him from killing a large amount of people.

I would hate to be in a situation where you feel you have to turn your child in. I'd probably try to stop him myself.

If you were a Muslim you'd puff out your chest in pride.

No doubt they read her rights to her. Sounds like she freely admitted to driving him to the club to scope it out, and she gave him aid in buying the ammo to be used in the crime...that she knew what the endgame of those actions was. She has to be an accessory before the fact right?

"A North Carolina mom and dad alerted the authorities about their radicalized son setting out to mass killing."

You turned in your own son??

bluetick wrote:No doubt they read her rights to her.

well...there is probably a little doubt

It really is up to the DA and how they view these things. If they are politically hungry, a charge could play well for a candidate (granted they have Republican aspirations). If the DA passes, I don't see the Justice Department doing anything. The fact that she (seemingly) cooperated with them fully on what she knows and the timelines bodes well for her.

Shit, even the FBI didn't believe he was an imminent danger. A family member will almost always defer to believing in the better angels of their family.

Talk about bad drunk decisions......


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eCat wrote:I would hate to be in a situation where you feel you have to turn your child in. I'd probably try to stop him myself.

My SIL and her husband turned in her step-son at age 16 when they read his computer saying he was going to shoot up his school. Probably was an exaggeration, but you do what you have to do.

iT'S been a bad week for Orlando. Former contestent on "the Voice," Christina Gimmie murdered after concert earlier in week.

Owlman wrote:I've stayed at this resort:

Child Dragged Into Water by Alligator at Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando: Sheriff
http://ktla.com/2016/06/14/alligator-dr ... n-orlando/

They've found the body. Still looking for the gator. They've already euthanized 5 gators in the waters.

Historically unliked candidates:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-u ... d=39856303

Trump's Unfavorables Spike, but Clinton's Challenged, Too (Poll)

another creep who just wanted to kill himself by cop after killing innocent people:

Man arrested in California faces Indiana charge

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man ... id=DELLDHP

I wonder what reigious zealout will come out and say that the gator attack on the toddler was because of God's judgement, too.

Where are the animal rights people for the alligators? About 3-4 of them were slaughtered to find the boy. Where's the charges of bad parenting?

All I know is that the Cincy Gorilla Harambe was gonna be pissed if they did not euthanize a bunch of gators around the area.

Robbie Abell, owner of a Florida gun shop, says he alerted authorities that a suspicious man had come in asking about body armor. Five weeks later, Omar Mateen – equipped with weapons he bought at a different shop after Abell’s employees refused to sell to him – killed 49 people and injured as many at Pulse night club in Orlando.

The Wall Street Journal quotes Abell as telling them that his store, Lotus Gunworks of South Florida, “shut him down on all sales” after be began asking bizarre questions about body armor and bulk ammunition. “The questions he was asking were not the normal questions a normal person would be asking… He just seemed very odd,” Abell said. The armor Mateen asked about is not traditionally available to civilians.