Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[puterbac]

Tick,

What did you do to summer man? You wear a jacket to watch the Knoxville Open this morning?

I figure its snowing on DSL if he is still in Cleveland.

[puterbac]

One more...

Battle of the Sexes
By John Stossel - August 14, 2013

Read more: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl ... z2c4JI7Zbd
Follow us: @RCP_Articles on Twitter

[crashcourse]

so according to rat and puter we go from 162 bil deficit in 2007 to over trillion for the next 5 years under obama

I see why rat misses GWB now

[Toemeesleather]

Record low high temp here today...71. Ain't global warming amazin'?

[BAMAFEVER]

You have to actually have a "BUDGET" to have a budget deficit. Not aware of the Obama administration passing one.

[puterbac]

Obama’s unconstitutional steps worse than Nixon’s

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html

[puterbac]

Can Obama write his own laws?

By Charles Krauthammer

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html

[bluetick]

Tick,

What did you do to summer man? You wear a jacket to watch the Knoxville Open this morning?

I figure its snowing on DSL if he is still in Cleveland.

We followed our boy Chase Carroll in the afternoon...felt like fall for sure.

[bluetick]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... e/2596453/

Personal Health Care Costs Increase at the Slowest Rate in 50 Years
Washington -- 7/29/2013 (USA Today)

Personal health care costs rose in the 12 months ending in May at the slowest rate in the last 50 years, as spending on hospital and nursing home services declined, the White House announced Monday.

A series of recent government reports and industry analyses have shown a decrease in overall health care costs. In May, a CBO report showed a $618 billion drop in projected Medicare and Medicaid spending over the next decade. A recent study by the Department of Health and Human Services showed that for Americans who receive health insurance through their employers, premiums rose 3% from 2011 to 2012, the lowest increase since 1996.The ACA law is not affecting job growth, Krueger said. Job growth in industries that have traditionally not provided health insurance for their employees, such as restaurants, was higher. Restaurant sales and employment have increased more than any other retail sales industry since the law was signed, at about 11% for employment and 17% in retail sales, and weekly hours also have grown about 3% since the law was signed.

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A very informative article, especially the part about rates for the various state's insurance exchange's premiums being much lower than anticipated. Still...you can't beat a good anecdote. "Subway franchisee on Hyw BF-egypt cuts his three sandwich-makers hours below 30 a week" has more appeal for some.

[Toemeesleather]

From the story....

Krueger pointed to several changes that have taken place since the health care law was enacted as reasons why costs are going down, though officials have acknowledged the slow economy played a large part.


Not to mention the health benefits of the rapidly growing solar energy industry.

[bluetick]

RNC Votes to Ban NBC and CNN From the 2016 GOP Debates

LMAO - the Great GOP Makeover, much anticipated after the meltdown of last November, stumbles out of the gate.

Bang. Ding. Ow.

[Professor Tiger]

I agree with the RNC's grievance. There is little doubt that any "movie" about the PAH will be a puff piece designed to help her get elected (and, if possible, bash whoever the R nominee is). She will be depicted as the real genius behind the Clinton presidency, who spent her spare time bringing food and blankets to the homeless. Benghazi? Never heard of it. Nothing to see here, move along. Meanwhile, Paul or Christie will be portrayed as having young women chained up in their basement.

But I don't think a boycott is the best approach for the RNC. Maybe they should fight fire with fire and get FOX and the EIB Network to do their own movie about Hillary that portrays all the stuff the MSM keeps under wraps.

[sardis]

I bet they never show her cankles either...Because that would do more damage to her likeability than anything.

[10ac]

All she has to do is win the primary.

[puterbac]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... e/2596453/

Personal Health Care Costs Increase at the Slowest Rate in 50 Years
Washington -- 7/29/2013 (USA Today)

Personal health care costs rose in the 12 months ending in May at the slowest rate in the last 50 years, as spending on hospital and nursing home services declined, the White House announced Monday.

A series of recent government reports and industry analyses have shown a decrease in overall health care costs. In May, a CBO report showed a $618 billion drop in projected Medicare and Medicaid spending over the next decade. A recent study by the Department of Health and Human Services showed that for Americans who receive health insurance through their employers, premiums rose 3% from 2011 to 2012, the lowest increase since 1996.The ACA law is not affecting job growth, Krueger said. Job growth in industries that have traditionally not provided health insurance for their employees, such as restaurants, was higher. Restaurant sales and employment have increased more than any other retail sales industry since the law was signed, at about 11% for employment and 17% in retail sales, and weekly hours also have grown about 3% since the law was signed.

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A very informative article, especially the part about rates for the various state's insurance exchange's premiums being much lower than anticipated. Still...you can't beat a good anecdote. "Subway franchisee on Hyw BF-egypt cuts his three sandwich-makers hours below 30 a week" has more appeal for some.

I'll let you know in about 6 weeks. Our premiums were of course up again last year and we an increase in max out of pocket and all co-pays.

As far as anecdotes go server at Applebees (Cedar Bluff) doesn't want Opramacare he wants his 11 hours a week that he can't have as they are cut to 29. He's gonna have to change jobs or get a second one.

I work with a contractor who is very pleased with a 10k deductbible catastrophic type plan that he pays for out of pocket for him and his wife and two infant sons. Pays $700 a month for it. But under Opramacare he can't have that plan as someone in DC decided it isn't good enough, so now he is going to have to pick a more expensive plan he doesn't want. Oh and as he makes more than the 4x poverty level for a family of four he will receive zero subsidies and must bear all the cost unlike DC and their staffs of course. Oh and there is simply mass confusion on what you are supposed to do to comply with the law, but who would know as Oprama just keeps changing things at a whim.

Seriously who came up with the stupid make a $1 more than this limit and you get NO subisidies? I look forward to hearing what tick has learned over the last few months. Seriously.

[Johnette's Daddy]

I bet they never show her cankles either...Because that would do more damage to her likeability than anything.

The largest voting block in 2016 will be . . . women with cankles. The party of angry old white men just doesn't get it.

It's like in 1948, every pollster had Dewey crushing Truman. After Truman won, it suddenly struck them that maybe they polled too many white, male Republicans . . .

[Professor Tiger]

She'll probably be the Dem nominee unless someone better comes along, like 2008. She was declared invincible then, too. Although this time, any serious Dem rival had better have somebody else start their car and sample their food.

If the PAH is the nominee, she'll probably win. Her utter lack of charisma and very modest record of lifetime achievement will be more than offset by the fatal divisions within the Republican party. It's that Establishment vs. Tea Party rift that is killing the GOP, not so much the demographics. If the R conservative base had bothered to show up last election, Romney would be president right now.

[Dr. Strangelove]

The R conservative base is not nearly as large as conservatives want to think it is. The idea that the R's odds of winning increase greatly by electing as far to the right a candidate as possible is delusional.

By all means, nominate a candidate who will scream about banning nearly all abortion, deporting all the damn illegals, and how we need to end govt. entitlements. See how popular those measures are with the general public instead of some super conservative House district in the South.

[10ac]

DSL is right. The general public could give a damn about paying for the death of someone else's unborn baby, or giving illegal leeches food stamps just as long as they (the general public) still get all they feel that they are entitled to. I think the "general public" way outnumber the mean old angry white men who pay for most of everything.

[Professor Tiger]

The R conservative base is not nearly as large as conservatives want to think it is. The idea that the R's odds of winning increase greatly by electing as far to the right a candidate as possible is delusional.

By all means, nominate a candidate who will scream about banning nearly all abortion, deporting all the damn illegals, and how we need to end govt. entitlements. See how popular those measures are with the general public instead of some super conservative House district in the South.

If that is true, then why does every serious analysis of 2012 say that Romney lost because so few of those angry gun toting religious redneck white male registered REPUBLICANS didn't bather to show up and vote for him? It's not like the Mittster, the RINO mushy moderate that he is, got many crossover votes because of his RINO mushy moderation. All those voters you mention who are pro-abortion, pro-illegal alien, pro-government entitlement, etc. already had a candidate. His name was Barack Obama, and they voted for him in droves. Duh. Who else would voters like that they vote for?

That is the flaw in the argument that the R's would do so much better if they would just become pro-abortion, pro-illegal alien, pro-gun control, anti-energy, and pro-big government entitlement. Like George Will (peace be upon him) once said: give the voter a choice between a Democrat and a Democrat, and they will vote for the Democrat every time.

A GOP candidate that is convincingly conservative would at least turn out his own party's base. That is a ridiculously low standard that neither Romney or McCain managed to achieve.