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Meeks got hurt before the State game

Who won?

innocentbystander wrote: it is impossible for a freshman (and Kentucky starts 5 true freshman) to lead a college basketball team.

Bklyn wrote:

innocentbystander wrote: it is impossible for a freshman (and Kentucky starts 5 true freshman) to lead a college basketball team.

I'm curious, how many national championships that team had?

I'm curious, what does that have to do with "leading a college basketball team?" Or are you modifying your statement? Otherwise, there are a lot of programs not being led at all...ever...throughout the history of college athletics by Freshman, Sophomore, Senior or otherwise.

I would still argue that the Davis/Gilchrist Cats are candidates for your weirdly high bar for "leaders" anyway.

Apologies for not posting this sooner...

Fuck you, Louisville! Take your shit and run again, pussies!

I don't want to be the one to inform Dave that Louisville is no longer in ConferenceUSA

I guess that's what he meant by "take your shit and run again".

Saint wrote:Meeks got hurt before the State game

Ok but he played 21 minutes verse state and 18 minutes against tech

but only 12 last night should have played 18 minutes again last night

this may not be the most frustrating UK team I have watched but I am at a loss as to what has happened to this team. 3 players and possibly another have played themselves out of the NBA in the last 5 games. At this point, our record may save us but we're not even as good as last years team.

What the fuck Syracuse.

25-0 to this shit?

Bklyn wrote:I'm curious, what does that have to do with "leading a college basketball team?" Or are you modifying your statement?

I suppose you could say that the team is behind and struggling in a close one, and the players see a team "leader" take charge and step up the level of play and (by doing so) elevate the play of all the others. And then they win a game they would not "otherwise."

I would call that a leader. In my opinion....

We don't see those very often (never?) from college freshmen basketball players. Florida is kicking ass right now NOT because of freshman. Same with St Louis. Teams have strong veteran leadership. That will pay dividends for those teams in the tourney.

That said, I don't know what the fuck is going on with Syracuse at the moment. Total choke job the last couple of weeks.

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innocentbystander wrote:

Bklyn wrote:I'm curious, what does that have to do with "leading a college basketball team?" Or are you modifying your statement?

I suppose you could say that the team is behind and struggling in a close one, and the players see a team "leader" take charge and step up the level of play and (by doing so) elevate the play of all the others. And then they win a game they would not "otherwise."

I would call that a leader. In my opinion....

We don't see those very often (never?) from college freshmen basketball players. Florida is kicking ass right now NOT because of freshman. Same with St Louis. Teams have strong veteran leadership. That will pay dividends for those teams in the tourney.

That said, I don't know what the fuck is going on with Syracuse at the moment. Total choke job the last couple of weeks.

The Fab Five did not storm through the regular season or tournament when they lost to Duke in the Finals. They won and lost plenty of close ones...until they won 5 out of 6 in the Tourney. All freshman, elevating their teammates. I think they easily showed that. It's not impossible to have a freshman (or freshmen) lead a team to success in college basketball.

Calipari was so upset with James Young's 1-10 3 point shooting last night that he benched Poythress every time Young missed

(joke from the Catspause board)

innocentbystander wrote:What the fuck Syracuse.

25-0 to this shit?

I sorta remember you crusing them a few week back with your national championship talk.

Man, this is a heavy piece on Dean Smith and his life today.

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_ ... mith-story

Saint wrote:Man, this is a heavy piece on Dean Smith and his life today.

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_ ... mith-story

dementia scares me - it doesn't run in my family but I'd think thats a hard way to go out.

I think I'd rather be demented then ate up with cancer.

I think its easy on dean much tougher for everybody close to him--could be years of this is the problem