The Goat Pen

No, Sassus...

Dr. Strangelove wrote:So Missouri, in only its second year in the SEC, with a roster full of guys recruited to play in the Big12, is on the verge of winning the SEC, and this is considered a year where the SEC was especially strong?

Who said 'especially strong'? The comment in question was about 'everybody saying the SEC is down'. There is a perception that because UF and Tenny are down the league must be down but I'd characterize a 1st tier of Alabama, Auburn, and Mizzou, followed by a 2nd tier of Carolina, LSU, and TexAM as not too shabby. Toss in Georgia before they lost Murray and receivers. Do any of the other conferences have a 7 team lineup to answer that?

Stanford, Oregon, Arizona State, UCLA, USC, Washington, and Arizona is probably close. More so than your average SEC fan cares to admit. But the broader point is whether Auburn's schedule was so extraordinarily difficult that they merit jumping ahead of OSU even if OSU handles Sparty.

By no objective measurement (computer polls) did Auburn play a brutal schedule and their OOC was just as bad as ours or FSU's was.

And I will say again that the SEC fan's standard argument on why you deserve preferential treatment is that no one else in the country could survive an SEC schedule without multiple losses. Every week is a grueling war. Even Kentucky and Miss State. Missouri has already largely disproved that, playing with a team full of non-SEC players, and they will shatter the myth should they beat Auburn. I hope Malzahn and the team are actually paying attention to the team that's in front of them instead of politcking like Jay Jacobs.

Gawd, I don't want to see another anOSU curb stomping.

But the broader point is whether Auburn's schedule was so extraordinarily difficult that they merit jumping ahead of OSU even if OSU handles Sparty.

By no objective measurement (computer polls) did Auburn play a brutal schedule and their OOC was just as bad as ours or FSU's was.

tOSUc's opponents and their current BCS rankings:

Buffalo - unranked
San Diego St. - unranked
California - unranked
Florida A&M - unranked
Wisconsin - #21
Northwestern - unranked
Iowa - unranked
Penn St. - unranked
Purdue - unranked
Illinois - unranked
Indiana - unranked
Michigan - unranked
Michigan St. #10

Auburn's opponents and their current BCS rankings:

Washington St. - unranked
Arkansas St. - unranked
Mississippi St. - unranked
LSU #15
Ole Miss - unranked
Western Carolina - unranked
Texas A&M #24
FAU - unranked
Arkansas - unranked
Tennessee - unranked
Georgia #22
Alabama #4
Missouri #5

tOSUc number of ranked opponents: 2
Auburn number of ranked opponents: 5

Objective measurement.

10ac wrote:Gawd, I don't want to see another anOSU curb stomping.

What's tOSUc's bowl record vs. SEC teams again?

I think it would be enjoyable to watch another tOSU Championship game suicide mission.

All this talk about Auburn jumping tOSUc is premature. We are a very good team, but we needed two, back to back, once-per-25-year miracles to get where we are. And Mizzou is an excellent team. True, they played in the weaker division with essentially one good opponent (that they lost to). But they are fully capable of beating us.

Professor Tiger wrote:

10ac wrote:Gawd, I don't want to see another anOSU curb stomping.

What's tOSUc's bowl record vs. SEC teams again?

Irrelevant

Sagarin says Auburn played the 26th toughest schedule in the country. That's not, IMO, so extraordinarily tough a schedule that makes me ignore that they were dominated by LSU in a LOSS. Or that they didn't beat a single decent team by more than a TD

If you want the BCS and the voters to do something totally unprecedented, you better have something stronger going for you than "we beat Alabama on a fluke play! Ain't that enough?!"

Professor Tiger wrote:All this talk about Auburn jumping tOSUc is premature. We are a very good team, but we needed two, back to back, once-per-25-year miracles to get where we are. And Mizzou is an excellent team. True, they played in the weaker division with essentially one good opponent (that they lost to). But they are fully capable of beating us.

Missouri beat Georgia, A&M, and Ole Miss by larger margins than Auburn did and the same margin against Tennessee (Missouri won 31-3. But I guess when you're in the BRUTAL West, where there are no bye weeks, no easy OOC games, and not a chance to even sleep, you get so durn wore out that you can't be blamed or penalized for letting Mississippi State almost beat you

Its WAR Strangelove - WAR!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ hisself would have trouble putting together a winning streak in the SEC, Doc.

Stanford is closer to being undefeated than Auburn. Does that count?

mizzou was closer to being undefeated then anyone......well if you throw out that little kickoff from 109

AA must be still in mourning

Awbie won't jump anOSU but Bama shouldn't fall behind them.

As of now its either Free Shoes U vs. Cam got away with it or FSU vs. Urbans Last Stand.

Or that they didn't beat a single decent team by more than a TD

When you play a lot of good teams like we do in the SEC, the margins victory tend to smaller than when you are mediocre but play a series of dry goods stores and haberdasheries like you do in the B10.

Professor Tiger wrote:When you play a lot of good teams like we do in the SEC, the margins victory tend to smaller than when you are mediocre but play a series of dry goods stores and haberdasheries like you do in the B10.

on in more succinct language: WAR!!!

Washington State is the 9th best team in the Pac12 and you were outgained by them and needed some good old fashioned SEC refereeing to bail you out.

And that wasn't after the Mississippi State game either so you couldn't have been THAT exhausted.

(BTW, Bowling Green reports that Mississippi State is the most WARlike team they've ever lost by one point to)