Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[bluetick]

Still consistent.....nothing.

What's yer specific gripe, then? Did yer hours get docked because of obamacare? Did your club get dissed by the IRS? Did somebody pull your library card?

Help me help you.

[Toemeesleather]

Don't waste your time on me, Barracky needs all the help (lies, damn lies and statistics) he can get from you and the media.

[bluetick]

List of Detroit's creditors. Doesn't take long to figure out why they are going bankrupt...


http://www.freep.com/article/20130718/N ... -Kevyn-Orr

SUSTAINABLE11!!


....bringing hope and change into focus.

So it's Detroit that has you blue?

Detroit's problems go back at least 6 administrations, right? Two/thirds of the citizenry moved out, along with the businesses that served them, and as a result tax revenues withered away. It's was in all the papers.

[Professor Tiger]

Too much government spending (much of it on government union pensions and health care), too much borrowing, and too many tax increases that drove businesses elsewhere.

Liberal economics wants to do for America what it did for Detroit.

Merely 6 years ago our republican county voted to replace the gold pension plan for county law enforcement with a diamond jubilee one. Ads with deputies pulling cats out of trees did the trick, despite protestations from sensible people that this would be our ruin. It passed (puter and I voted against the plan to no avail), and then anybody with any connection to law enforcement jumped onboard...DA's office, 911, court staffs, etc..

Again, all the players were repub...sheriff, mayor, nearly all the commissioners, voters (there are practically no dems in East TN). Now the current county mayor is stuck trying to mitigate this disaster.

Then it sounds like those local officials were practicing liberal economics (Tennessee good ol' boy style). That is not too surprising; Republicans have been known to do that too.

[bluetick]

Then it sounds like those local officials were practicing liberal economics (Tennessee good ol' boy style). That is not too surprising; Republicans have been known to do that too.

Nope. Our repubs are no different than anybody elses repubs - whatever the po-po or the military want, they get. And they'll get even more than they asked for, and they'll like it by God.

Any shortfall will naturally be offset with cuts to liberal boondoggles such as public education or environmental services.

[Professor Tiger]

Well I'm sure your county law enforcement officials deserved that pension upgrade. It's hard on them busting up all those stills, meth labs and pot green houses. They need the extra money to pay for Thanksgiving dinners their relatives no longer invite them to.

[sardis]

List of Detroit's creditors. Doesn't take long to figure out why they are going bankrupt...


http://www.freep.com/article/20130718/N ... -Kevyn-Orr

SUSTAINABLE11!!


....bringing hope and change into focus.

So it's Detroit that has you blue?

Detroit's problems go back at least 6 administrations, right? Two/thirds of the citizenry moved out, along with the businesses that served them, and as a result tax revenues withered away. It's was in all the papers.

No, I'm not blue at all. In fact, my ilk are doing quite well. Its some other demographics that aren't...

http://www.aei.org/article/economics/th ... n-america/

[innocentbystander]

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/3 ... mark-steyn

To achieve this level of devastation, you usually have to be invaded by a foreign power. In the War of 1812, when Detroit was taken by a remarkably small number of British troops without a shot being fired, Michigan’s Governor Hull was said to have been panicked into surrender after drinking heavily. Two centuries later, after an almighty 50-year bender, the city surrendered to itself. The tunnel from Windsor, Ontario, to Detroit, Michigan, is now a border between the First World and the Third World — or, if you prefer, the developed world and the post-developed world. To any American time-transported from the mid 20th century, the city’s implosion would be literally incredible: Were he to compare photographs of today’s Hiroshima with today’s Detroit, he would assume Japan won the Second World War after nuking Michigan....

...So, late on Friday, some genius jurist struck down the bankruptcy filing. Judge Rosemarie Aquilina declared Detroit’s bankruptcy “unconstitutional” because, according to the Detroit Free Press, “the Michigan Constitution prohibits actions that will lessen the pension benefits of public employees.” Which means that, in Michigan, reality is unconstitutional.

You can't make this shit up...

...as Steyn said later, maybe we can just let Windsor Ontario annex Detroit?

[Professor Tiger]

Those photos show the result of all those Republicans that ran Detroit into the ground with their lavishing the po po and their draconian cuts to liberal boondoggles such as public education or environmental services.

[Professor Tiger]

Texas and North Dakota would be even worse off than Detroit if the R's ever wielded influence in those places.

[Toemeesleather]

In fact, my ilk are doing quite well. Its some other demographics that aren't...



Yep, where are all the it's just the rich getting richer....on the backs of the poor/working man...when a we have a repub prez?

Looks like the dems have abandoned their mascots.

[bluetick]

Those photos show the result of all those Republicans that ran Detroit into the ground with their lavishing the po po and their draconian cuts to liberal boondoggles such as public education or environmental services.

Low brow sarcasm that requires a nod to IB.

Rough day?

[bluetick]

List of Detroit's creditors. Doesn't take long to figure out why they are going bankrupt...


http://www.freep.com/article/20130718/N ... -Kevyn-Orr


SUSTAINABLE11!!


....bringing hope and change into focus.


So it's Detroit that has you blue?

Detroit's problems go back at least 6 administrations, right? Two/thirds of the citizenry moved out, along with the businesses that served them, and as a result tax revenues withered away. It's was in all the papers.

No, I'm not blue at all. In fact, my ilk are doing quite well. Its some other demographics that aren't...

http://www.aei.org/article/economics/th ... n-america/

Two points:
1) I was addressing toe - not you, and
1A) only an asshat would use the words "my ilk." Don't be that asshat, sardis.

[Jungle Rat]

5 years later, Im very happy.

[Toemeesleather]

List of Detroit's creditors. Doesn't take long to figure out why they are going bankrupt...


http://www.freep.com/article/20130718/N ... -Kevyn-Orr

SUSTAINABLE11!!


....bringing hope and change into focus.

So it's Detroit that has you blue?

Detroit's problems go back at least 6 administrations, right? Two/thirds of the citizenry moved out, along with the businesses that served them, and as a result tax revenues withered away. It's was in all the papers.

Over those 6 administrations, how many years was the state legislature and/or governor controlled by dems? Without researching, I'll bet 2 large it was almost totally dem.

Any attempt at reform was met by actions we saw in Wisconsin and currently can be seen in NC. Too many folks still believe in money trees.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... on_LEADTop

[Professor Tiger]

Those photos show the result of all those Republicans that ran Detroit into the ground with their lavishing the po po and their draconian cuts to liberal boondoggles such as public education or environmental services.

Low brow sarcasm that requires a nod to IB.

Rough day?

Over the line!

[Dr. Strangelove]

Mayors of America's 50 largest Cities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:M ... _US_cities

34 Dems, 12 Republicans, 4 Independents. I imagine all the Dem-run places are horrible places to live.

[Professor Tiger]

Mayors of America's 50 largest Cities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:M ... _US_cities

34 Dems, 12 Republicans, 4 Independents. I imagine all the Dem-run places are horrible places to live.

Speaking of horrible places to live, here's an interesting cross reference article:

America's Most Miserable Cities (according to USN&WR/NBC):

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02 ... ities?lite

1. Detroit - (Democrat, according to DSL's article)
2. Flint, Mich.
3. Rockford, Ill.
4. Chicago (Democrat)
5. Modesto, Calif.
6. Vallejo, Calif.
7. Warren, Mich.
8. Stockton, Calif.
9. Lake County, Ill.
10. New York (Democrat)
11. Toledo, Ohio
12. St. Louis
13. Camden, N.J.
14. Milwaukee (Democrat)
15. Atlantic City, N.J.
16. Atlanta (Democrat)
17. Cleveland (Democrat)
18. Poughkeepsie, N.Y.
19. Gary, Ind.
20. Youngstown, Ohio

I wonder how many of these miserable cities are governed by Republicans... My guess is <10%.

[gule]

Rest in Hell, you miserable old hag, Helen Thomas.

[Toemeesleather]