The Goat Pen

"all these things (these massive expansions in government) were the result of women voting for spending to make them more whole at the expense of someone, anyone, they didn't give a damn (even if it was at the expense of their own children)"

So you're saying women are more selfish than men and that men are also more nurturing of their own children than women are. Interesting...

hedge wrote:"all these things (these massive expansions in government) were the result of women voting for spending to make them more whole at the expense of someone, anyone, they didn't give a damn (even if it was at the expense of their own children)"

So you're saying women are more selfish than men and that men are also more nurturing of their own children than women are. Interesting...

Women do not consider cause-and-effect when voting. Spin that anyway you'd like but don't add things that I didn't say.

It is not about who is more or less nurturing. It is about who wants more entitlement from government and not caring in the least how that entitlement is PAID.

So you're saying they're selfish, short-sighted and not too bright. I'm not surprised that you hold this opinion, but it certainly reminds me of the old chestnut "We criticize in others what me most dislike about ourselves"...

hedge wrote:So you're saying they're selfish, short-sighted and not too bright. I'm not surprised that you hold this opinion, but it certainly reminds me of the old chestnut "We criticize in others what me most dislike about ourselves"...

They are extremly bright, bright enough to understand that the power they wield (politically) is insurmountable so long as women vote (as a block) on women's issues. That type of thinking dooms a Constitutional Republic based on self-rule because....

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy

Women are the majority voters. The massive expansion of government entitlement brought about during the 20th Century was a result of women voting for things that they had no intension of paying for.... it is as simple as it is.

As far as selfish goes, this goes back to wondering whether or not women are (largely) gold-diggers or not. That is an entirely different discussion.

innocentbystander wrote:

Jungle Rat wrote:I can't believe you are not already incarcerated.

and I CAN believe that you were incarcerated because you married a woman who was emotional and was going to destroy you because she was scorned. she would lie in court with a straight face and do all that she could to harm your future because (in her mind) you did something to hurt her and she would get even. that is all the reason she needed, cause-and-effect be damned.

no rat, I don't want people like your ex-wife in the voting booth.

She didn't win dumbass. I laughed last. She still should have the right to vote unless you agree she shouldn't pay any income tax.

Ah, the conundrum. IB thinks he will never meet the right girl because, as he so tediously points out, there is no such thing.

His soul mate surely must be out there somewhere in this wide wide world. I'm thinking near-polar...an Inuit maybe, or some other indigenous female from the Arctic climes. Rough-hewn, industrious; long on servility and short on conversation.

you gotta get off that couch and go fetch one, though

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy"

When was that quote delivered?

hedge wrote:"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy"

When was that quote delivered?

That is still debated Hedge. They are not even certain who made that quote. What is not in debate is the accuracy of the quote given the function of human nature.

Jungle Rat wrote:

innocentbystander wrote:and I CAN believe that you were incarcerated because you married a woman who was emotional and was going to destroy you because she was scorned. she would lie in court with a straight face and do all that she could to harm your future because (in her mind) you did something to hurt her and she would get even. that is all the reason she needed, cause-and-effect be damned.

no rat, I don't want people like your ex-wife in the voting booth.

She didn't win dumbass. I laughed last.

That's good. I'm glad you got the senseless restraining order quashed and you won.

Jungle Rat wrote:She still should have the right to vote unless you agree she shouldn't pay any income tax.

um, there are aboug 80,000,000 people in this country who pay not one penny of income tax (or get every penny of it returned to them in Earned Income Tax Credit) and everyone of them (over the age of 18, without a felony record) are eligible to vote. so.... i don't know where you are going with that one. you don't have to pay any income tax to vote so saying those who can't vote should pay no income tax is..... meh. my 15 year old nephew pays income taxes on his check at In-n-Out and can't vote.

"That is still debated Hedge. They are not even certain who made that quote. What is not in debate is the accuracy of the quote given the function of human nature."

Yep, we are headed straight for dictatorship followed by monarchy. It's not even debatable!

hedge wrote:"That is still debated Hedge. They are not even certain who made that quote. What is not in debate is the accuracy of the quote given the function of human nature."

Yep, we are headed straight for dictatorship followed by monarchy. It's not even debatable!

okay fine. the last three words are debatable

i'll give you that. you give me the rest

innocentbystander wrote:

Jungle Rat wrote:

innocentbystander wrote:and I CAN believe that you were incarcerated because you married a woman who was emotional and was going to destroy you because she was scorned. she would lie in court with a straight face and do all that she could to harm your future because (in her mind) you did something to hurt her and she would get even. that is all the reason she needed, cause-and-effect be damned.

no rat, I don't want people like your ex-wife in the voting booth.

She didn't win dumbass. I laughed last.

That's good. I'm glad you got the senseless restraining order quashed and you won.

Jungle Rat wrote:She still should have the right to vote unless you agree she shouldn't pay any income tax.

um, there are aboug 80,000,000 people in this country who pay not one penny of income tax (or get every penny of it returned to them in Earned Income Tax Credit) and everyone of them (over the age of 18, without a felony record) are eligible to vote. so.... i don't know where you are going with that one. you don't have to pay any income tax to vote so saying those who can't vote should pay no income tax is..... meh. my 15 year old nephew pays income taxes on his check at In-n-Out and can't vote.

You really are a fucking moron. I got that restraining order "squashed" 9 years ago. Hello.

You don't think women should vote yet you expect them to pay income taxes? Are you that much of a stupid fucking idiot?

Don't answer that.

It appears to be attributed to some dude from the late 1700's, probably some english dude who was mad about America defeating the British, so he's whining about democracy not being a viable political system. That was over 200 years ago and now all of Europe has gone FROM dictatorship and monarchy TO democracy, while America has become the wealthiest, most powerful nation in the history of mankind. Sounds to me like that dude got it ass-backwards, which probably explains why you think it's "not debatable"...

What you are saying is you want women to work hard to support their family & pay their fair share of taxes yet they can't vote on where that money they are giving to the feds goes to? It's no wonder you've never been laid.

hedge wrote:It appears to be attributed to some dude from the late 1700's, probably some english dude who was mad about America defeating the British, so he's whining about democracy not being a viable political system. That was over 200 years ago and now all of Europe has gone FROM dictatorship and monarchy TO democracy, while America has become the wealthiest, most powerful nation in the history of mankind. Sounds to me like that dude got it ass-backwards, which probably explains why you think it's "not debatable"...

http://www.lorencollins.net/tytler.html

http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/athenian.asp

Appears most likely that someone simply made the quote up in the 40's or 50's. Or quite possibly written in pieces by people living through 1930's Europe which would make it seem quite plausible.

It could easily be Soviet or Nazi propaganda, in which case it makes perfect sense that IB would latch onto it like a tick on a hound's nuts...

Multiple stories out of OK of women teachers acting as human shields in an attempt to save the kids under their care during that tornado.

As for the woman-hater in our midst - gfy with a concertina dildo.

"Multiple stories out of OK of women teachers acting as human shields in an attempt to save the kids under their care during that tornado."

Impossible. Women are incapable of cause and effect thinking, there's no way they could piece something like that together. Plus, they're selfish and would never try to save anyone but themselves...

You are all being duped. There is NO way IB is serious on 90% of what he says. He's obviously doing a 'Stephen Colbert' and you are all his unwitting rubes.

I have actually entertained the idea that IB is Crow...