Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[hedge]

".The whole manmade global warming religion is starting to teeter."

Seems to be a trend with religions of every type. Good riddance...

[Dr. Strangelove]

Michael Reagan suggests that gay marriage will open the door for bestiality and murder to be legalized

http://www.irontontribune.com/2013/04/0 ... ight-back/

[Jungle Rat]

At least I'll stop getting arrested.

[aTm]

15 years does not a teeter, or a trend make in the data base that is the earth's climate.

It represents a substantial error from the computer models used in that period to make wide sweeping conclusions and recommend spending trillions of dollars. Enough error to question whether that are just off on some variables or whether they are just total bullshit.

[crashcourse]

still not sure why this country doesnt pursue natural gas a lot more then we do now.

[hedge]

Bleed the middle east dry now, have something to fall back on later. You would think so-called "conservatives" would understand this, but no, all they want to do is greedily suck up all of our own resources now. So much for "conservatism"...

[Toemeesleather]

Joe Klein, another teabagger at Time.....


Let me try to understand this: The key incentive for small businesses to support Obamacare was that they would be able to shop for the best deals in health care super-stores—called exchanges. The Administration has had 3 years to set up these exchanges. It has failed to do so.

This is a really bad sign. There will be those who argue that it’s not the Administration’s fault. It’s the fault of the 33 states that have refused to set up their own exchanges. Nonsense. Where was the contingency planning? There certainly are models, after all—the federal government’s own health benefits plan (FEHBP) operates markets that exist in all 50 states. So does Medicare Advantage. But now, the Obama Administration has announced that it won’t have the exchanges ready in time, that small businesses will be offered one choice for the time being—for a year, at least. No doubt, small business owners will be skeptical of the Obama Administration’s belief in the efficacy of the market system to produce lower prices through competition. That was supposed to be the point of this plan.

Certainly, the Republicans who have stood in the way of these exchanges—their own idea, by the way, born in the conservative Heritage Foundation—deserve a great deal of the “credit” for the debacle. But we are now seeing weekly examples of this Administration’s inability to govern. Just a few weeks ago, I reported on the failure of the Department of Defense and the Veterans Administration to come up with a unified electronic health care records system. There has also been the studied inattention to the myriad of ineffective job training programs scattered through the bureaucracy. There have been the oblique and belated efforts to reform Head Start, a $7 billion program that a study conducted by its own bureaucracy—the Department of Health and Human Services—has found nearly worthless. The list is endless

[Professor Tiger]

".The whole manmade global warming religion is starting to teeter."

Seems to be a trend with religions of every type. Good riddance...

Religion is as strong as ever worldwide. In Europe and near the US coasts, not so much.

[hedge]

You're right, amongst islamo-fascists and terrorists, it's as strong as ever. You seem pleased to have that in common with them. Good for you...

[Toemeesleather]

Red neck teabaggers taking over Wisconsin....


Remember Big Labor's throw-down last year over Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's public-sector union reforms? The fight ended with a squeak yesterday as conservative Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Patience Roggensack handily defeated union-backed candidate and Marquette University law professor Ed Fallone, with some 57% of the vote.

The vote means conservatives retain 4-3 control of the Wisconsin Supreme Court. The next two justices up for reelection on the court will be from its liberal wing, which means that after yesterday's win conservatives are likely to maintain or extend their majority for years to come. That's a blow to unions who were hoping that they could secure a liberal majority that would be more receptive to an upcoming appeal of a Dane County case charging Mr. Walker's union reforms are unconstitutional because they exempted police and firefighters.

The election also shows that Mr. Walker's union reforms have had significant political consequences for the left. During a similar state Supreme Court battle last year between conservative incumbent David Prosser and liberal challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg, local and national unions poured buckets of money into the fight for control of the court and lost. With their ammo spent, Mr. Fallone's campaign got only a fraction of the support.

Conservatives also won two other judicial elections in Wisconsin yesterday in Ozaukee and Milwaukee counties. In Ozaukee, voters refused to reelect liberal incumbent Tom Wolfgram in part because of his signature on a petition to recall Gov. Walker. In Milwaukee, conservative County Circuit Judge Rebecca Bradley won despite her challenger's attempt to tag her as a flunkie of the governor. That's particularly noteworthy in Milwaukee County, which has traditionally been a union stronghold.

Since Mr. Walker's union reforms went into effect, public sector union membership has declined precipitously in the Badger State, to 37% in 2012 from 50% in 2011. Combined with steadily declining rates of private-sector union membership, Wisconsin's overall union membership rate of 11.2% dipped below the 2012 national average of 11.3% for the first time in decades.

[Professor Tiger]

The good citizens of Wisconsin apparently decided not to become Greece/California.

[Dr. Strangelove]

still not sure why this country doesnt pursue natural gas a lot more then we do now.

We sort of do. We've been so successful at shale fracking that the price of natural gas has collapsed over the past 5 years. Now it's almost unprofitable to produce from a dry gas well; you need to tap a wet gas or oil play to make it worth your while.

Also add that nat gas passed coal as the #1 fossil fuel used by power plants in the US over the past year.

[crashcourse]

need to start using it more for widespread transportation

[Toemeesleather]

It's already causing the enviro-wackos to re-state their hate-hard-on for it. Back when coal was cheaper, they preferred natural gas, now fracking is numero uno on world-wide destruction.

[Professor Tiger]

As a general rule, environmentalist wackos hate everything except wind and solar energy.

Al Gore only approves of fossil fuels when they power his dozen mega-mansions, SUV caravans, and his private planes to fly him around the world. The rest of us must live in solar or wind powered mud hut communes.

[Professor Tiger]

RIP Maggie Thatcher.

[sardis]

Makes you say, what?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html

"Recently two bioethicists, Alberto Giubilini and Francesca Minerva, published a paper in the peer-reviewed Journal of Medical Ethics entitled “After-birth abortion: why should the baby live?” They wrote: “[W]hen circumstances occur after birth such that they would have justified abortion, what we call after-birth abortion should be permissible. … [W]e propose to call this practice ‘after-birth abortion’, rather than ‘infanticide,’ to emphasize that the moral status of the individual killed is comparable with that of a fetus … rather than to that of a child. Therefore, we claim that killing a newborn could be ethically permissible in all the circumstances where abortion would be. Such circumstances include cases where the newborn has the potential to have an (at least) acceptable life, but the well-being of the family is at risk.”

[Professor Tiger]

It's the next logical step. The current legal line between a fetus - which is not a human and therefore has no legal rights - and an infant who is a human and has legal rights - is when the head exits the birth canal. That has always been a ridiculously subjective line. You can deliver a baby except the head and vacuum its brains out, and that's okay. But if the baby slips all the way out, you can't kill it. What an existential difference six inches makes.

Abortion rights people quietly understand that absurdity. Diane Feinstein once suggested that the baby isn't a baby until you take it home. Illinois State Senator Obama voted against a law that said, if the baby accidentally survives an attempted abortion, you can't kill it anyway. The bioethicists in that article would agree.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Mitch McConnell demands the FBI investigate everyone on the Left after a taped recording surfaces of he and his team brainstorming possible attacks on Ashley Judd...lol

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/m ... html?hp=r2

[AlabamAlum]

I don't know about investigating everyone on the left, but despite my own opinion of Sen. McConnell (and Ashley Judd, for that matter) I think it's a very serious issue that deserves a serious invesitgation. Secretly taping a senator in a closed meeting? C'mon.